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Transmission 2016-2023- 6 SPEED AUTOMATICS COULD BE LOW ON FLUID DIRECTLY FROM FACTORY

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by gearcruncher, Dec 13, 2015.

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Was your transmission low on fluid?

  1. fluid level is fine

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  2. fluid level was low

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  3. Truck was built in USA and had low fluid

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  4. Truck was built in Mexico and had low fluid

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  1. Feb 4, 2016 at 1:01 PM
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    How long is the slip from R to D when cold supposed to be? It's been in the 30s most mornings and when I shift into drive from reverse it takes about 2 seconds for it to shift in. Then sometimes when taking off it will slip on the next gear change or two. Other than that I haven't noticed anything on hills or corners or in warm temperatures
     
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  2. Feb 4, 2016 at 3:33 PM
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    For me it's about a second or less.
     
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  3. Feb 5, 2016 at 5:23 AM
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    Took to dealer on Wed for same problem. They said it was normal..I asked them to write that in the corrective action on service sheet. They decided to keep it overnight, let it cool down to proper temp to check fluid...It was a quart low. I haven't done a morning ops check yet.
     
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  4. Feb 5, 2016 at 5:25 AM
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    The real WTF, is why did they eliminate the dip stick!:facepalm:
     
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  5. Feb 5, 2016 at 9:47 AM
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    Yea I had to get mine checked two times. First check it was .75 quarts low and I still got the lag or slip (it was a lot less though). So I had them check it again and they found out it was about 1/2 quarts low. So far I have not felt a lag or slip.
     
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  6. Feb 5, 2016 at 10:01 AM
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    How long has it been since the second top off?
     
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  7. Feb 5, 2016 at 11:32 AM
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    About a week. Still good and no lag problems.
     
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  8. Feb 5, 2016 at 4:46 PM
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    Took me a while to find the explanation when we had issues with the 2nd gen truck but here it is
    The reason for no dipstick is that the car builders want you to believe that you don’t need to check or maintain the fluid. Many of them actually say that the fluid they use is good for the life of the vehicle.This ofcourse is simply not true
    This was the explanation Toyota used when they started installing the 5 speed automatics without a dipstick in the tundras and Tacomas . I am sure someone will eventually find the same information for the 2016 model AC60 transmission

    Page 18 of this PDF explains this http://www.toyotatundraforum.com/pdf/A750E.pdf
    They say the overflow plug is more accurate . I think I could probably have a good argument with Toyota about this . At least with a fill tube , it gets checked on a regular basis
     
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  9. Feb 5, 2016 at 4:49 PM
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    Thanks GC!
    I guess it's too much to hope for an aftermarket dipstick retro kit...:pout:
     
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  10. Feb 5, 2016 at 4:52 PM
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    Its in the works I believe . I will do some hunting and get back to you guys about an aftermarket filler tube with level indicator .
    If memory serves me correctly , a company by the name of Tech Pack who make aftermarket filler tubes for other transmissions are on this .
    More to come later
     
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  11. Feb 5, 2016 at 4:54 PM
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    Could you see if they're available for 2nd gen.
     
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  12. Feb 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM
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    I am at the point where I am going to start making them and sell them to you guys as a mod hehehehe
     
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  13. Feb 5, 2016 at 5:09 PM
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    Thanks GC!:cheers:
     
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    Wishing you guys luck . I know I would love a filler tube .
    There are a couple other companies that make the filler tubes as well but I always used these guys .
    There products were reliable and easily sourced . I kept that company busy for 20 years and I am sure other transmission shops used them just as much .
     
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    Me Too!:fingerscrossed:
     
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    Giggity!:laugh:
     
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    Nothing yet... Bought it with TWO miles on it!!!
    Here's to add to this super long thread.
    Been a old school Chevy guy for a while. 350's, 454's, TH350, TH400. My old man and I, work our way through no problem.
    Reading this thread made me paranoid about my new Tacoma...

    After a LOT of talking with a srvc writer, srvc, mngr, and a tech, we discovered I was 3/4qt low.. Maybe not a lot to write home, but possibly allowing the valve body to suck up a little air when atf temps were cold and the fluid hadn't expanded... Could be the cold start/ slip issue.

    The process was a little involved, but after the atf temp dropped from 186 to 112, took maybe 20 minutes from check, to fill, to recheck.
    Get a good service department, explain yourself thoroughly, and see if you can get it checked.
     
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