Canada BS Thread

Not going to happen. Bit late for him to talk about studying the effects on driving. I am thinking about coke, crack and whats the deal on fentinal. I wont defend drunk drivers but most pot smokers I know think nothing about smoking and driving. To them a non issue. Same people wouldn't dream of driving after wine or beers.

 

Then they will learn a quick and harsh lesson. No offense. Here the Sheriffs (Alberta provincial traffic police) have really upped the amount of checkstops and random stops for minor violations. I know a few alcoholics who got away with drinking and driving for decades because they either knew someone or knew routes to take to avoid common checkstops and they've all now lost their license in the last year. Once pot is legal I have no doubt they will crack down on smoking and driving immediately to send a message.

Coke and crack will always be a problem but, at least around here, we are talking about maybe 1 in 100 driving under the influence of those drugs. That, compared to the 10-30% of drivers who are drunk or high after 10 pm, is a very small problem.

Fentanyl and other abused pain killers are a whole separate issue that extends well beyond just their driving effects. We have a real prescription abuse problem in the western world and the poor economy is just making it worse. People are looking for an escape that is "better" than booze or weed. They usually end up killing themselves in 10-15 years, or sooner, with their habit and destroying their entire lives. The funny thing is that these same people used to turn, in previous generations, to crack, coke, or heroin, but have stopped because somehow they think prescription drugs won't lead them to the same end. I'm not really sure we can ever solve that problem unless we work on a way to force people to get treatment for their mental illness, which has it's own set of moral issues and problems.

 

No reason for me feeling offended. I just think in this day and age drug users are far more likely to be under the influence and drive. Not talking about caffeine or nicotine. Also more likely to be at work high.

 

Meh, I'm sure the oil sands slowing down will directly lead to a fall in that. The camps were drug playgrounds.

 

Why wait? Impaired driving is and will continue to be illegal. The problem, as previously mentioned in this thread, is that there is no way to measure a persons level of impairment much less a benchmark for an acceptable level of impairment like there is for alcohol. More than likely there will be an amount you're legally allowed to transport, I'd guess around an ounce. So how would a cop differentiate between a sober person whose car smells like weed and an impaired person whose car smells like weed?

 

Read the original article. They have made advances lately in regards to determining what THC blood level will be used to determine if someone is impaired. They are also trying, empirically, to determine how a THC user reacts while driving so that officers can look for the warning signs. All I'm saying is that once pot is legal and a standard has been set, even if it requires a blood test, wait to see the crack down on it. They will probably use some variant of the procedure BC has used in the past and, if you refuse the blood test via an insulin test strip like device, then you will have to fork over your vehicle to an impound and receive some form of punishment.

I don't know why they would care how much you are transporting. You can transport a pallet of beer in your truck and no one gives two shits.

 

not entirely true, there is a limit to how much alcohol you're allowed to import from another province. Alberta and Manitoba don't have import limits, but the rest do.

every time weed changes hands (growers ->distributors -> retailers -> consumers) it will be taxed. imposing a limit on everyone who isn't an authorized grower or distributor helps in identifying illegal tax evading operations.

 

the gov't is already in process to take over the manufacture of the greens. when looking to past and new medicinal laws ppl used to get their permit and be able to grow, now ppl with medicinal permits must purchase from health canada approved and licensed growers. licensed medicinal users now must pay provincial taxes on the products.. the 1st step in taxing and profiting for the good old gov't. in controlling the growing process we can be sure there are no chemical additives that ppl are smoking.. as for driving, that's gonna be tougher.. but once the medicinal side is fully managed there will be canadian models to base production on. ......... !!!

 

Have you ever been through southern Alberta? Hemp has been here for decades. I would guess outdoor mass production will take over from small operations pretty quick, all under the governments watchful eyes as you said.

 

Oh, I wasn't debating the taxation part. The government will absolutely take their cut at every level. Is there a limit on tobacco? I'd expect the law to be similar. The tax implications are the same for either crop.

 

I'm no expert, but probably not. My understanding is that indoor operations produce a higher quality product in a shorter timeframe because you can control the temp, humidity, water at optimum levels, and provide high intensity light 24 hrs a day.

Not that I'm aware of.

 

actually you fukkers should get on CNBC right now, there's a show in this airing now.

 

24hrs a day light doesn't produce a better product, the auto grow stuff is good for the home growera simplicity when illegally growing.. but how hard is it to get a timer for the lights!?!

 

Growing outside you gotta deal with mildew on the buds

not that I would have had any first hand experience with that

 

No worries of mildew in an arid climate with control of the water (irrigation). Most hemp seed for things like hemp milk comes from just north of here. High quality is critical for that.

 

Who knows. Honestly with how well it grows here I'd assume, again, it would end up on a field scale like Tabacco. Who knows though. I'm no expert on MJ production lol.

 

Like I said, I'm no expert. A quick search says optimal lighting is 16-18 hrs per day.

 

Well sure if thats the only place you grow it , in summer

Inside you can grow all year

 

Normal lighting at this latitude would give Hemp light from 6 am till 10 am... which is just about optimal. Next time I'm in a hemp field with a grower I'll take a picture. It grows exceedingly well here under irrigation and by controlling the water in a dry climate the quality is top notch. The same can be said of the potatoes here. We spray less for disease than almost anywhere else in the world because of our somewhat unique climate and isolation.

 

Nah. I'm just suggesting that I would think it wouldn't be a crazy jump for hemp growers, who have grown hemp for decades in some cases, to jump to weed production should the opportunity arise.