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Towing not an option

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by snefo, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. Feb 18, 2016 at 6:49 PM
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  2. Feb 18, 2016 at 6:49 PM
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    Have you browsed around Tacoma World at some of the work in general and electrical work in particular that folks do on their trucks? There's no reason that an aftermarket wiring harness has to be a "trailer park" modification.

    MUCH LATER EDIT - in case folks find this thread searching while searching - plug and play harnesses are now available:

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/curt-plug-n-play-trailer-wiring-availabe.423904/
     
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  3. Feb 18, 2016 at 6:50 PM
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    I would keep my receipts and if anything wasn't working in the Future. From corrosion or whatever. I would keep them responsible for the install.
     
  4. Feb 18, 2016 at 6:54 PM
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    There is no aftermarket wiring harness available.
     
  5. Feb 18, 2016 at 6:54 PM
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    At 3500 pounds max, the Truck shouldn't have too much extra heat. Where the extra coolers that the V6 tow package, might be needed towing closer to the 6500 pound max.
     
  6. Feb 18, 2016 at 7:01 PM
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    This is not what I would call a wiring harness. It is a converter. You have to cut wires in the factory harness and run a power wire from somewhere. I guess you could pull out a fuse and jamb the wire in there and shove the fuse back in. The point of all this is Toyota could have left a plug back there for connection of trailer lights, yet they chose to create an entirely separate wiring harness to prohibit this "upgrade". Seems spiteful.
     
  7. Feb 18, 2016 at 7:02 PM
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    We're going in circles here. It was already linked.
    http://www.etrailer.com/Custom-Fit-...acoma/2016/119178KIT.html?vehicleid=201643175

    You'll have to clip some factory wires. But, and this goes back to my original point, a detail oriented individual can do this in a way that won't degrade the overall wiring quality of the truck or materially increase the risk of failure in the future.

    Most folks would use something like this - but you can totally do a higher grade connection than that.
    http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/porta...al-idc-wire-connectors/scotchlok-557-pigtail/
     
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  8. Feb 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM
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    No, they just acknowledge that adapters of the sort that has been linked have been used successfully and without issue for years, no DECADES, by the aftermarket.

    Whomever at the dealer told you that doing so would "void your warranty" may have been feeling spiteful. That I can't say.
     
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  9. Feb 18, 2016 at 7:08 PM
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    What exactly do you mean "trailer park warranty voiding modifications"? Are you trying to say that anyone who lives in a trailer park is shitty or doesn't really know what they are doing? Just to be clear, no I don't live in a trailer park as I live in a brick home on a couple acres of land, but generally trailer parks are associated with the country setting which I do live in.

    If you knew you would either be towing or the possibility of you may tow in the future, why did you buy a truck without the tow package? That sounds like your fault and problem, not Toyotas. You can easily install and hook up a 4-pin connector with hitch to tow a trailer with. Just go visit your local U-haul dealer and they will fix you right up.
     
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    Because stopping a 6000 lb. trailer is more dangerous with a 4 cylinder? What if Grampa doesn't floor his V6? God forbid someone should drive their V6 slow while towing.
     
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  12. Feb 18, 2016 at 7:13 PM
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    I did this very thing with my Jetta. I had a 4 pin connector and a bunch of wires in my trunk that I flopped out and closed the trunk when I was towing. I looked at that crap for 15 years.
     
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    "Trailer park" modification?

    OP Im sorry, but you are not gonna get very far on this forum with that additude. Especially considering that this is an enthousiast forum where almost everyone modifies their brand new and used truck in some way shape or form. Not many warranties have suffered at all. Some would consider your additude borderline offensive. Many of the guys here have given you perfectly good advice and options for your situation. They know what they are talking about. Listen to them.

    You are not going to get the kind of emotional support you are looking for. Man up and splice the wires, its not a big deal. Liquid tape the connections or shrinkwrap them. Or pay someone else to install it. Someone posted it earlier, but you wont be seeing a 7 pin harness for your truck from the dealer. If anything they will be splicing wires just like everyone else.
     
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    Hate to say it like this but there isn't any point in trying to reason with some people. Toyota offered options. One option included all the necessary options for proper towing. They don't make the customer buy or not buy it. That's why it's an option because not everyone needs it. He seems to not have gotten it, so that was his choice. Now he comes up here bitching that Toyota is being spiteful for not bending over and fixing his mistake. Why is it that the ones who come up here and bitch and complain about Toyota "screwing them over" have the lowest post count? That's a side note and question, I know. I'm just curious.
     
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    Translation: I'm a f**king idiot for taking ownership of a truck that wasn't how I ordered it; I can't perform even the most basic of upgrades without it looking "trailer park" or "ghetto;" have no Google skills; and out of embarrassment I want to loudly blame Toyota for my own mistake. The more the good people at TW try to help me the louder my tantrum will get, regardless of how foolish I look.
     
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    Listen to this post and stop while you're still ahead.
     
  17. Feb 18, 2016 at 7:21 PM
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    OK, now I see what you're hoping to avoid. It's possible to do a much cleaner job than that. You can wire up to a plug in your bumper, then plug your pigtail into that when you're ready to tow. Most of the access is by removing the taillights. You'll wire in with both tail lights removed, then the wiring will go under the truck, behind and protected by the bumper. Run alongside the existing wires and use plenty of cable-ties to keep the wiring bundle neat.
     
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    Yeah we seem to be far and few but not all of us are crazy....like some people :cheers:

    Wait, I better not post something that deals with beer as it may be related to "trailer park". I better get off before I get banned for a week. I need to remember the golden rule that i was thought in school.
     
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    I'm sorry, but you're basically the pot calling the kettle black.

    You asked for a truck with tow package. The dealer screwed up. You decided to take the truck anyway. So you accepted this fact.

    What you should have done was said no, find me the right truck now or give me my money back, and then found the truck you needed at a different dealer.

    But accepting a truck without a tow package and then being surprised that you can't easily add one doesn't make it Toyota's fault. It's your fault. You accepted the truck. Simple as that. If you needed to tow and didn't do your research regarding adding tow equipment to your truck, then your loss.
     
  20. Feb 18, 2016 at 7:23 PM
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    I think he meant. A sloppy job installing a new part or accessory. I have seen many enhancements to a vehicle that looks just as good if not better then the factory install.
    Some of those Trailer park Boys are pretty handy.
     
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