why are we getting v8 gas mileage with v6's

It's not only being frustrated by how shitty the MPG is but the lack of power. It's a turd. It's behind the curve and was a terrible idea. This truck should have an option for 350HP. I feel Toyota is hopeful of meeting CAFE standards by having a couple very high MPG cars in the fleet and put crummy engines in the rest because they are cheaper. Tacoma sells for what they price it at so the margins on the truck are better with this engine. Tundra to some extent the same. I don't know the rules to CAFE so just a thought.

A turbo engine is better in all aspects. Porsche is ditching the NA engine in the Carrera and putting a turbo in it. Audi for ever, Ford's eco boost.

Turbo engines are tunable as well. So far I have taco lean in the driver rear, a shitty engine and MPG and my dog has already stunk up my cloth seats. Probably wasn't the best purchase. At least Tacoma has really good resale value. I bought this truck as a in between car because it has great resale so I should stop complaining. I just want to love this truck and can't because of the above stated issues.

 

I agree , small displacement turbos are the way of the future , small displacement turbo hybrids in particular

 

I know the tank says half full, but the picture was taken as i was filling up

 

I disagree, the manual taco can hang with a 3.5 ecoboost and smash on the 2.7 ecoboost. A boosted gas engine will never last as long as the same NA engine

 

Did I read somewhere that a lot of people have experienced better MPG and power after 700 miles?

 

You mean this right?

 

The auto and the manual are not the same truck rock, have you driven them? It's night and day

 

Repeat after me:

If thou hast a shortcoming in thy expectations of thy Truck, it is your shortcoming, not Toyota’s.
If thou expecteth Toyota to deliver the gas mileage Toyota claims it should get, that is not a reasonable expectation, because it is a Truck.
If thou is not content with thy Truck’s perfection, thou should sell it and dwell in the evil ways of Chevrolet forever.

 

Might want to check the numbers:

2015 Ford F-150 Platinum FX4 SuperCrew 4X4 3.5L EcoBoost Compare Car 0-60 mph 5.8 seconds

2015 Ford F-150 Lariat SuperCab 4X4 2.7L EcoBoost 0-60 mph 6.1

We only had a chance to measure 0 to 60 mph times in a 4WD Double Cab, and averaged about 8.9 seconds, which is -- fine.

Sources:
http://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/ford-0-60-mph-times/z-a/
http://www.automobilemag.com/toyota/tacoma/2016/#reviews

Manual to auto of vice versa, you aren't going to gain 2 seconds. Add in altitude too where the Ecoboost is unaffected and the 3.5 L will be gasping... yikes.

Ecoboost F150's blow the doors off of a Tacoma. Any year. The Ecoboost family uses small twin turbos to develop their power down low. You know, where a truck needs it and the 3.5 L doesn't have it. For towing, acceleration, and overall driver feel lots of torque down low with a good top end, which engines like the Ecoboost provides, are a perfect match for small trucks. I'd love to see a Tacoma with a FI twin turbo engine. Honestly, no 3.5 L Tacoma's have made a million miles so who knows how much better or worse it will be than anything else.

 

Except that 5.0 L Ecoboost is going in the 2018 Raptor. It's not a built engine. It's a production engine. It will be insane.

 

For 2017. For 2018 the 5.0 Ecoboost is coming. It will be optional. There's a bunch of rumors about what else will get it (F250, F150 Platnium in place of the old 6.2, Mustang, etc etc) but nothing has been confirmed.

 

Cool you found the fastest times on the Internet, I've said it before, the only 0-60 recorded for the manual was .8 seconds faster than the auto. The fastest auto time is 6.8 seconds.... Eventually the manual taco will test close to 6 seconds. There's plenty of 2.7 ecoboost numbers over 7 seconds also.

 

Ok. I don't agree but it might be because I understand that in two trucks, that are only separated by 300 lbs, 50-125 ft lbs of torque difference delivered 2000 rpm earlier is a big deal not only for track times, which honestly aren't the point, but matter for how the truck handles, feels, and tows.

 

Don't worry. @BeaverNation has an easy way to drop a second off of 0-60 times with mods.

Also, the F150 runs 5's and 6's all day once modded... Point being, no offense, Tacoma needs FI at some point.

 

MY S/C'd 4.0 L is lucky to see 17...

I didn't find that the TRD S/C changed my mileage much. It was the tires that hurt.

 

One thing I noticed about this truck is I control the fuel economy by how I drive. I can drive for 23MPG or 17 MPG. The Gen 2 was not as "responsive" to light footing, Fuel economy always sucked.

 

Meh. I'll be in another one at some point. Whether it's a Ranger or a Tacoma has nothing to do with mpg though. It'll be based on power, price, and availability of aftermarket parts. If I can get a 325 HP Ecoboost Ranger for less than a Tacoma with a few aftermarket armor and suspension options it will be hard not to go that direction.

 

Too bad they pulled the warranty on them for guys in Canada. Apparently they didn't add enough safety margin for idiots who floor their truck to 4000 rpms when it's -20 c out and the engine hasn't warmed up yet.