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What have you done to your Tacoma today? 1st Gen Edition

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by SlimDigg, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. Mar 6, 2016 at 9:50 PM
    95 taco

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    I really like the looks/ functionality of 255/85 but that's what my cousin has on his 3rd gen T4R and it felt a lot more tippy than my truck.
     
  2. Mar 6, 2016 at 9:52 PM
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    taco terror 1st gen = best gen

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    Haha I have a different goal. When I get my degree and hopefully start making decent cash I want to repaint it and make it look new and shiny.
     
  3. Mar 6, 2016 at 9:57 PM
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    A good goal too! I'd like to do a restoration on something one day, doubt it'll be something this new but maybe an older Toyota truck. I'd like to surprise my Dad one day with a restored 61 Lincoln Continental. The next paint job that my truck sees will be out of copious rattle cans, likely a combination of bedliner and a nice blue for everything else (I'd still prep it like it was getting the royal treatment though).

    EDIT: Just read your build, I too grew up in my grandparents' Yotas... not my truck but similar. Also how you like the dashmat, that might be my cure to how ugly mine is.
     
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  4. Mar 6, 2016 at 10:34 PM
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    Blackdawg Dr. Frankenstein

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    I could say the same thing to you about 35s :boink: :p

    :stirthepot:

    Good lucky. Seriously do not recommend for people unless you have a fully setup shop. You need some very special tools to do it.

    Also...i hated doing it. Id just do the ECGS way if i had to do it again. Seriously.
     
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  5. Mar 6, 2016 at 10:41 PM
    Speedytech7

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    BAH! No ECGS for me, I believe they do their job well but it is such a high price for an inherently simple device, plus I have the parts, it'd be back tracking for me. Sounds like a challenge and I'm up for one! Love to learn things like this, hell it's what I want to do for a living! Will be working in a well stocked shop too, my neighbor is a mechanical engineer (not in a desk jockey position). I think we can manage it, gonna do four diffs together if all goes to plan. If something absolutely needs to be made to get the job done we both can weld and generally have tons of material on hand.
     
  6. Mar 6, 2016 at 10:52 PM
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    pittim mittip backwards

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    Lol. Mechanical engineer just means he's good with math.
     
  7. Mar 6, 2016 at 10:54 PM
    Speedytech7

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    He's fabbed up quite a bit of stuff, including a SAS'd E350, lots of household projects. Too much to list with his Tacoma. Although you're correct, he is a fucking mathematical genius. Probably the most handy/skilled person I've ever met.
     
  8. Mar 7, 2016 at 12:59 AM
    Blackdawg

    Blackdawg Dr. Frankenstein

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    You'll need a magnetic dial gauge and really a vertical one too for the front and fab something to hold the pinion down while you torque the pinion nut.

    Best of luck. Every time I've taken my diffs apart. Taken me three weeks to get them back in due to lots of little things.

    If you are doing non elocker rear diff, the 8.4", better be ready for down time as no master kit comes with the washer plates needed to set the backlash on the pinion. Need a micrometer to meassure and guess what sizes you'll need and the. Order them. Then hope you get the right ones haha
     
  9. Mar 7, 2016 at 1:25 AM
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    Thanks for the info, I've got a couple dial gauges, didn't know about the washer plates, that's good info. I'll drill into the workbench to hold the pinion and 3rd member. Should be an interesting experiment. Since we're doing a couple non elocker 8.4 I may order a couple washer plate sets. I'll just prepare for the worst and buy master rebuild kits for bearings and such and make sure I have ring bolts on hand too.
     
  10. Mar 7, 2016 at 2:01 AM
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    You'll want the magnetic base for the gauge.

    Can't really drill into the bench for the pinion..least not in a way to let the nut still be accessible. But thats an easy thing. A large piece of steel like 3'x2'' with some holes at the end is what we used. Worked perfect. Be easy to figure something out. On that note, you'll need a torque wrench that shows in/lbs. Like very small amounts to set the pinion preload.

    Idk how much the washers cost as a set. I never found them in a set. Had to order them one at a time via toyota. a 2-3 bucks each with about 20?ish+ that would be an expensive thing to buy considering you'll only end up using 2 a diff. Id just wait and measure and calculate which ones you need. Then buy that one plus 1 size bigger and 1 size smaller just in case. Hopefully your math is good and you'll be fine.

    Replace all the bearings while your in there. The front pinion is TERRIBLE to change. Fucking such a pain....so...good luck with that one especially.

    You'll need a 20ton press for this as well. You will not be able to do this well without one.

    Go to zuks website and start reading a lot. Sadly, there is nothing on there about the fronts as he just doesn't do them, he hates working on clamshells and so will you when you're done haha
     
  11. Mar 7, 2016 at 2:09 AM
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    Awesome, well I've got the magnetic base and an in/lb torque wrench already. I'll just buy a shop press if my neighbor doesn't have one cause it is a useful thing to have anyway. How does ZUK regear if he doesn't do the fronts? Either way it looks like the front isn't much more of a pain if you use your old bearings to test fit. I see varying opinions on whether to use a crush sleeve for the front pinion. Seems like it all worked out well for you in the end though, even if it was a pain. I have something else to drive if the truck has to be down for a while (I'll have three or so months) so it's no biggie.
     
  12. Mar 7, 2016 at 4:13 AM
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    ^^^^ and this is why I won't try diffs. I would need someone over my shoulder watching. Good luck man :thumbsup:
     
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  13. Mar 7, 2016 at 4:20 AM
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    Thank you sir! Hopefully I can get it knocked out right after summer begins. If work really slams me for time I guess it could take a while but other than having to maybe order parts it shouldn't be a nightmare.
     
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    welp i backed right into my dad's 2015 Colorado.... this is gonna be a bad day
     
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    Madjik_Man The Rembrandt of Rattle Can

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    That's an awesome idea. What's the volume of the slider like in real world terms, eg "can fill a 31" tire from 18 psi to 35 psi..."

    Love this idea since that space in my engine bay is occupied by sky gears box.
     
  17. Mar 7, 2016 at 6:23 AM
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    No 35s for me. I wheel more than most on here and still can't justify the added costs, effort, and wear and tear. Plus I have 4.88s in hand now and want to stay overgeared.

    I'll test, but the heart of this system is still my Viair 400H that is mounted in that location. Don't think the 1.3 gallon tank would do much on its own. It was setup to compliment the system, being it was easy and already there.

    If you used all the tubes of both sliders as tanks it might then you might have enough volume to make a bigger difference.
     
  19. Mar 7, 2016 at 7:10 AM
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    Ah, makes sense.

    I'll just stick with my MV-50. Thing seems to just keep on ticking.
     
  20. Mar 7, 2016 at 7:41 AM
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    You can NOT use the originally bearings to "test fit" haha the new bearings will change the back lash. We are talking about adjusting it to a few .001". New bearings change that. Id never use a crush sleeve. Simply because you can not reuse one once it's installed. When I did my front and my dads we had to change the pinion deoth to get us within soec of the backlash. That meant taking the pinion out and adding shims to it which meant we would have used a crush sleeve every time. Plus solid spacers don't move over time.

    You're the second person I've seen on here recently that's said that. When I was looking at regear stuff it I never saw that. Is that a new thing??

    3 months...good...hopefully it doesn't take that long haha
     

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