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Transmission: Going from reverse to drive when cold. Truck surges forward...?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by BMunster, Feb 2, 2016.

  1. Mar 6, 2016 at 4:33 PM
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    I would be willing to bet there is strong case of a mis- diagnosis here .
    You have " Two "of the classic low on fluid symptoms similar to a bunch of the new 2016 trucks and here we have a transmission assembled with incorrect tolerances that was tested at the factory and worked fine ?

    It would be nice to see the paperwork on this one to determine what tolerances the technician is reporting as the problem .
    You can watch on the techstream how long it takes to fill the forward clutch with oil .
    The error code on the computer for a slipping forward clutch will be similar if the transmission is low
    If the technician is stating that it takes too long for the forward clutch to fill with oil when its, cold as the problem , I would be willing to bet the transmission is still very low on fluid .
    Regardless , its being repaired under warranty .
     
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  2. Mar 6, 2016 at 6:29 PM
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    I second @gearcruncher . it looks like low fluid, and sounds like your low fluid condition damaged transmission.
    I would ask for new truck, you have brand new truck that will have transmission swap in car fax. Dealers will lowball you on resale.
    To others, you folks understand the concept of oil ? Right?
    If you drive truck with low fluid condition you will damage transmission so just adding fluid is too late.
     
  3. Mar 7, 2016 at 6:34 AM
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    But didn't we have a guy in another thread who purposely overfilled his fluid and still had the issue?
     
  4. Mar 7, 2016 at 7:45 AM
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    Just some 35% tint to match the rears and some 285/70/17 Falkens…
    I had to reschedule it. I am taking it there tonight actually. They said it'll be covered under warranty. Once I get a report back from Ganley, I'll post....
     
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  5. Mar 7, 2016 at 7:46 AM
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  6. Mar 7, 2016 at 9:39 AM
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    There was mention of this in another thread but that was
    when there were issues with the proper fill procedure . I am sure
    he would have posted back by now if his problem continued .
     
  7. Mar 7, 2016 at 10:09 AM
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    It takes long time to purge all air from the system and get transmission to shift properly. This is not like A750F/E transmission, those 6 speeds have thermostat which simply is trapping air in system. (even if you set thermostat to fully open during measuring procedure)
    It takes long time and quite an effort to get rid of all the air. Trust me on this one, once you get air in the system it is absolute pain in the @ss to purge it all.
    So somebody filling transmission and not getting results right away is not surprising.
    It took me quite a time to get my AB60 correct, no thanks to retarded Toyota and their techs. Because it takes time to set correct level, no dealer can get that right except from factory. Because either you know how much fluid you need to put or you need to keep filling until all air is out.
     
  8. Mar 7, 2016 at 10:29 AM
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    And this was after he had it " topped off " at the dealer.

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  9. Mar 7, 2016 at 4:31 PM
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    Yes , we havnt heard back from the OP in regards to if his transmission is working better or not . It would be nice to get an update
     
  10. Mar 8, 2016 at 12:35 PM
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    Just some 35% tint to match the rears and some 285/70/17 Falkens…
    Update: They told me they could not "duplicate" the issue. I told them I'd prefer that they empty the tranny fluid and do it all over again and check that it's not low, as there are NUMEROUS threads complaining about this issue from people with 2016 models w/ the tow package. They assured me that they will do so, and let me know if it's low. All I can do is hope for the best. I was skeptical about buying an auto transmission and I wish I would have saved the thousands and went with the manual tranny. I'll def get a manual tranny in two years when my lease is up. Lessons learned, I suppose...
     
  11. Mar 9, 2016 at 2:02 PM
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    Just some 35% tint to match the rears and some 285/70/17 Falkens…
    Got it back from the dealer. Dealer said it was almost one quart low on tranny fluid. They topped it off after checking it at proper operating temperature. Only time will tell if it makes a difference. Either way, I'm definitely buying a manual transmission next time. For many reasons. Thanks to Ganley Toyota for doing the right thing and honoring it under warranty and giving me a loaner car (Mike Ash, Service).
     
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  12. Mar 9, 2016 at 2:03 PM
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    Just some 35% tint to match the rears and some 285/70/17 Falkens…
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    Hey my 05 2nd gen does a little over rev when cold going from reverse to drive.Only cold ass days.But it seems you Are On Top Of This!Please keep us informed.Together we are strong !!!! ps congrats on a 16...
     
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  14. Mar 9, 2016 at 2:11 PM
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    Glad you managed to convince them to finally check the fluid . I just hope you didn't do too much damage during the time you drove around with the fluid low . 1 quart is a lot of fluid to be low . Hold on to your paper work

    As I have mentioned before , one of you guys need to start a petition to get extended warranty on your transmission after all this crap you guys are going through .
    I can guarantee other members here will have no issues signing it .
     
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    Here you go Mr hot Tacoma . Lots of information for you my friend
    This is for trucks built from 2005 - 2015
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...th-pics-for-second-gen-4-liter-trucks.289913/
     
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    Just some 35% tint to match the rears and some 285/70/17 Falkens…
    I drove it this am cold....not as cold as it's been in the past but still a "cold start". To be quite honest, it seemed to feel a lot better from R to D when cold and also felt like it shifted smoother thru the entire power band 0-60 mph. I def will keep my paperwork in case there are any long-term issues. Just wanted to share that w/ anyone having similar issues w 2016 models w/ tow package.
     
  17. Mar 11, 2016 at 10:27 PM
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    I had the same issues took it an I was one quart low.
     
  18. Mar 12, 2016 at 2:32 PM
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    Dear gear cruncher that will not kill a rear end spider gears.You will smoke high gear clutches in the automatic transmission.spider gears lack of lube or massive donuts.I have eaten rear gears spiders are slide loaded.Back to the issue talk to tranny guys and ps not a lot know this tranny inside out.
     
  19. Mar 12, 2016 at 5:41 PM
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    hmm , i dont know why you mentioned this ?
    is there a chance you could explain the misinformation i provided so i can correct myself .
    Sorry dude
     
  20. Mar 13, 2016 at 10:34 AM
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