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  1. Mar 14, 2016 at 12:37 AM
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    I am halfway there... lol
     
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    Ugh wish I could have a 5-speed!
     
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    You can. find a wrecked donor. Just as long as I don't have to do another 3rd gen rear lift ever again. lol

    Cheaper than a supercharger. More power too.
    http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5453475160.html
     
  4. Mar 14, 2016 at 12:57 AM
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    Get a 2nd gen
    Could also supercharge it later for even more power :burnrubber:
     
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    Cheaper to buy not install though

    I will get a 2nd Gen the day you get a 3rd Gen
     
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    hood clearance may be an issue, but yes.

    I think by the end they would end up costing the same. The only thing that you have to buy is the adapter. Everything else can be made at home.

    If you have a donor car all you need are 4 things really:
    Transmission adapter
    Motor mount
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    ECU adapter.
     
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    You and I both know you'd love a manual 2 door
     
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    That would be the perfect time to do a manual swap if I ever did this swap. Something to think about whenever I blow the 3.4L

    That's just not even fair
     
  9. Mar 14, 2016 at 8:44 AM
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    They don't just blow. You could sell it to some 2nd genner
     
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    Some 2nd Genner won't upgrade his motor from the 3.Slow
     
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    3.0 isn't the wort thing in the world. From what I've been reading there are permanent fixes to the HG problem, its just that people didn't do their research and didn't get it fixed properly. I mean yeah it still got its flaws compared to the 3.4 like worse mpg and hp, but when you look at when the engine was made, its not all that bad. Most engines from that era had low power and mpg. For example, compare the 22RE to the to the 3RZ-FE. The 22RE maxed out at 115 hp, and that was only on the newest ones. First ones had 105 hp. The 3RZ-FE gets 150. Its all about perspective. Modern engines just put out more power. Doesn't the 4.0 have a lot more power than the 3.4?
     
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    Doesnt the 3.slow only have 20 more hp than the 22re and 2 more cyls?
     
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    150 hp. So 35 more than the 22RE and 20 more than the 22R-TE, so you're partially right, just gotta turbo it haha
     
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    It's not all about power. The 22RE with a manual, while it won't win any races was not a bad motor. I could cruise at 80mpg with me on steel wheels and Super Swampers. The 4.0 has more power than the 3.4L, but in terms of reliability a majority would still choose the 3.4L over the 4.0L.
     
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    I believe my 87 4Runner had 116hp and the 3.0 had 145 when it initially came out. The 22RET had 135hp, I would love a 22RET 4Runner
     
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    I believe the 22RE has more usable power though, you can rev the crap out of a 4Banger and still get usable power. I could out run the 3.Slow on mountains going to Hungry Valley
     
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    Well of course not but power does help with rock crawling and everything else. My buddy has a 1st gen with a 3.0 and loves it. He's actually swapping in a new 3.0.

    And of course. The 3.4 is like the God Toyota engine when it comes to off-roading in the same way that the 2JZ is to the sports cars. It accomplishes it through a lack of stupid computers and electronics in the way (among other things I'm sure. Don't know much about the 4.0) while also building off the 3.0. Part of its greatness is from Toyota trying to fix all the things people didn't like about the 3.0. Hell if I'm not mistaken they share a decent amount of parts including the block? Not sure on that on that one lol
     
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    I am not sure on the last part. But 22RE is a pretty torquey motor, especially off-road in Low Range. The crazy though my buddy with a 3.Slow 5-speed 89 4Runner is in the process of swapping it out with a 3.4L. He can't even drive it from Phoenix to Sedona without the 3.Slow giving him issues, and he takes pretty good care of his vehicles. He had to take his 4th Gen up to Broken Arrow during the last run because he doesn't think his 3.Slow will make up the grade.
     
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    Probably due to the paranoia of the head gasket issue. I used to rev the shit out of mine, but I also live in a colder environment than a lot of people (not you colorado people lol). I honestly believe if my 4runner had lived out the rest of its life up here, it would've died in a car crash or of old age. The cold up here really helps the head gaskets, which is why I think there's so many 2nd gens here. You can't drive down the street without seeing one.
     
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    22RE: 140 lb·ft (190 N·m) at 3,600 rpm
    3.0: 180 lb·ft (244 N·m) of torque at 3400 rpm
    22RET: 173 lb·ft (234 N·m) at 2,800 rpm
     
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