2016 Tacoma 4 cyl verses V6!!! My opinions after driving the 4 cyl Auto

I am willing to accept that as "confirmed" based on the overall new rocker cover design, even though your eyes are obviously better than mine if you can read the "dual"

So that means we are looking at 170 hp on the "old" scale.
That's a 20% power bump over the 2.4, and 13.3% bump over the "old" 2.7.

 

Good question! Anyone that's ever been around engine tuning knows 2 dyno's never read the same. I'm curious to see the difference in torque/HP curve between the Single VVTI vs Dual VVTI 2TR.

 

Everything I can find says that the "dual" makes 164. The single is 159, except before the scales changed in MY2006 when it was 165. So I figure that to compare apples to apples, we take the difference between the single and dual (5) and add it to the MY2005 power figure.

But I would obviously love to see the curves for the dual, and especially side by side with the curves for the single from the same machine back to back.

Hahahaha, more powerful than a mid-80's chevy 350!
And down by something like 1500-2000 pounds compared to a K20.

 

It seems people that own a 2106 4 cyl really like them. The more weight I put in the back of mine the stronger and smoother it pulls. I did not expect this. Seriously, the truck acts likes the weight is not even back there. I have hauled 48 4x8x16 concrete blocks about 35 miles. I have done this about 8 times. This about 1200 lbs. I think. If you do this, try to keep the weight forward. The truck will start to feel a little "squishy" if the weight is too far back.

 

Nah bro...I actually test drove a 3rd gen and plan on buying in the future. My comment is based upon the test driving experience. Not trying to bash or hate on the truck but I am not going to do a disservice to fellow members and say that it is wonderful. The newer trucks are significantly heavier with just a few more hp/tq. People deserve to know that 4 cylinder tacos are okay for flat roads but on hills/offroad...any gas savings will be lost since you have to mash the pedal to get anywhere. And as you have stated, the 1st gen's can get away with the 4 cylinder because the chassis is so light and there were not all these safety features incorporated that weigh down the vehicles. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it (for a couple grand more).

 

What are you doing off-road that 159hp is not enough

Short of some mud bog I can't see any hp gain be of any real advantage.

 

Nice book ya wrote here, however with all your ramblings you did not change the fact that the 4.000Lb 3rd Gen 2.7L is a turd. Which is why I chose the V6.

As I previously stated, for those that have the 2.7 in the 3rd Gen, I hope they enjoy it, they bought it.

 

I love it thanks! Does just fine in the hills of KY!

 

Glad you realize that. My 2.7 does just fine for what I bought it for. I don't need a V6 with towing package just to tool around town in.

 

You are doing a disservice by misrepresenting it. It *is* wonderful.

You got that backwards, go back and read my post that actually included the numbers.
The newer trucks are BARELY AT ALL heavier, and SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful. They have a higher power to weight ratio, and in addition, they have a much flatter torque curve, which makes them able to deliver at a MUCH larger range of conditions.

6 and 8 cyl engines need their pedal mashed as well. If your power needs increase by 50%, then you need the engine to generate 50% more power, and that means increasing fuel consumption by AT LEAST 50%.

ALL engines burn more fuel to make more power.

Complete horse poop.
The newer ones are only MARGINALLY heavier. Eat one less cheeseburger every week and the difference goes away.

 

You haven't the right to make that determination. If your cheeseburger filled overweight self can't be moved by a 4-cyl, then I suggest that the problem is in you, not the truck.

 

A little over 700lbs isn't so marginal, imo

 

Just changed the oil in mine and saw the "dual" above VVT-I. It's tiny but it's there.

 

If he lost weight, he'd still have an equal weight difference between the two trucks comparing them side by side.

 

You ran out of BS excuses so you tried another route.

LMAO, I`m far from anywhere close to being overweight. I drove a 2.4L for 18 years and it hauled me around quite nice. I owned a 98 and an 01 Taco.

My 01 XtraCab Taco with over 170k miles on it that I recently sold would make the 4,000 Lb 3rd Gen 2.7L look bad.

And yes I do have the right to make that determination, I drove them both. .

You can paint a turd any color ya want and it will still be a turd, Nice try.

 

I drive a 3rd gen 2.7 auto on 35's and it's fine honestly I test drove the 6 and wasn't impressed at all. (I came from a modded 06 f150 that would kill either truck but I wasn't going for speed when I bought this one) it sucks that it searches for gears on the highway but it did that on stock tires and in the 6 so it is what it is. I wanted a new truck ASAP because of the problems with my f150 that I wanted to offload before I was sinking more money into it. The closest stick shift was In Tennessee (800 miles away). My 2.7 has 8,000 miles on it now and has been hauling my welding machine and tools, my 16' boat, and my ATV all on 35" trail grapplers without a problem. If I get a new truck I will probably go back to a 1/2 ton or even 3/4 but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

But I also live in Florida where the biggest incline I see is a boat ramp.

 

A couple of years ago I compiled the power-to-weight ratios of all the models in Toyota's lineup. Worst was the Prius-V minivan. Next worst was the 4-cyl Taco 4x4 in a tie with the 3-cyl Scion iQ. Come 2016, the Taco has only gotten heavier while the 4-cyl power output stayed the same.

While everyone is entitled to a subjective opinion of whether the truck is powerful enough, the numbers do show the 4-cyl 4x4 Taco as the weakest Toyota model sold in North America today with a conventional powertrain.

 

In this case the subjective experience is literally ALL that matters. People spend their money with an expectation of quality and serviceability. If those expectations are met or exceeded, the user is happy with the exchange. People can argue this until the cows come home, but all of the 4cyl owners in this thread are happy customers. Seems like a good outcome to me.

 

Try going up a steep hill in 4 low or ride around sand dunes and you will realize power matters. I was in my cousins 96 2.7 4x4 and we were literally mashing the pedal to the floor and it would not move anymore. Tires were not slipping...had full traction and would just jerk forward slowly a few inches and then come to a rest once we let go of the pedal LOL! Out in the dunes, you need to build up enough wheel speed to float over the sand to get past 40mph or else you tend to bog down and risk getting stuck if you are 2wd.