Turbo 3RD Gen (2TR)

Let it be known that after seeing what a turbo can do for small displacement engines, especially at altitude, I really really want to Turbocharge my 3rd Gen with the 2TR.

This company sells a kit for $1600: It is a Chinese turbo, which is concerning for products that spin at 100K RPMs and can, if they fail, send molten hot metal into your combustion chamber, but I would love to hear of someone running this, stateside or elsewhere.

 

I'm no expert or anything, but wouldn't it be cheaper to just get the V6? Also wouldn't have to worry about anything failing with the aftermarket parks.

 

Negative, I only wanted a manual tranny, my SR was 25,900 list.

Base TRD Off road with a manual is 32k - so 6K difference

Either way, I have the 4 now, and turbos are fun, especially the old school laggy ones, and a different experience than a N/A motor anyways.

 

I have experience with china turbo kits, but not on this platform... however this seems to hold true on other platforms I've played with....

The fitup will more than likely be poor at best. Count on many extra hours making stuff fit, or paying someone to.
The intercoolers included in these china kits are usually extremely inefficient, and poorly constructed.

From looking at their page the piping looks "interesting"- spliced together sections.... must be very low volume production, they haven't made many... are probably almost one off's...

If you look at the psi it took to generate those numbers it looks like they ran 2 setups, one at 20psi (your motor won't last long more than likely), and the other at nearly 30! psi ( stock motor will definitely not last long); to run that kind of boost pressure reliably, you need forged rods, crank, etc.....(a race built motor).

Also, there is no way to make those numbers without a HUGE fuel system (pump, lines, larger than stock injectors), and a way to control it all (aftermarket ECU, or open tuning to the stock ECU...).

Cheap and turbo kit are literally oxymorons.

I try to avoid posting here as I don't own a 3rd gen, but this one sucked me in and I could not resist... sorry

 

Couple more observations....

Looks like production kits have different piping (not the spliced together sections)...

The HP graph shows KPH (speed) instead of RPM on the X-axis, sorta atypical.... None of the BIG power becomes available until well after the legal speed limit has been reached. (probably very limited use in daily driving)

The is not a US spec truck, the aussies always get higher performing/less emissions burden stuff than here so the results are probably not repeatable with a US/north American version truck.

I'm actually baffled how they even produced that power once with "no tuning" and seemingly no change of fuel system parts. Would be cool if the manufacturer or someone that has one would chime in. I'm super curious, I'm not trolling at all, please don't mistake these posts for that. I make a living making stuff go fast on another platform (not truck related), so simply "want to know", if I'm missing something. I'll shut it now

 

where are you getting the 20 or 30PSI? I saw that they recommend 5PSI on their kits

20-30PSI is a crazy amount of pressure for any motor, even with an expert tune, let alone a stock 2TR...

 

Flip through all the pics/scroll down (on the FB page you posted...). There is a "dyno sheet" of its performance. Actually the lower number looks to be a hair under 20psi (17-18ish), the other "big"# almost 30psi!! That will hurt a stock motor (even with a lot of good tuning) REAL fast. Couldn't be done on anything but the most expensive race fuel (if gasoline), methanol, or alcohol. Actually shows it was done on E-85... (sorry, typing, looking at graph simultaneously) but you would need a MUCH larger than stock fuel system to spray that volume of fuel.

The power is completely stock like until 60mph even going by their info...

Dyno correction factor of 4.49 is inflating the numbers BIG time also.


Maybe I'm completely missing the 5psi kit you mention? their page is confusing as all get out, LOL....

EDIT: going to their homepage, NOT the link you posted does in fact show a 5psi kit....

 

Darn!! I fell for it!! WE're all done here

 

Lock it now! Lol

 

What a bunch of rice cakes.

 

Right, heres the writeup from the page:



"TURBO KIT TO SUIT THE 2.7 LITRE ENGINE 2TR-FE ON 5-7 PSI BOOST IT RUNS GREAT ON THE STANDARD ECU, INJECTORS AND AIRFLOW METER ITS A COMPLETE KIT AND WILL TAKE 5 HRS TO FIT WITH NO TUNING REQUIRED COMES WITH A V-BAND DUMP PIPE 2.5 INCH WE USE A GENERIC STYLE T28 TURBO"

There is no way I would run 20-30psi on this motor, let alone 10psi

5 psi sounds completely reasonable on a stock motor and would give this motor the extra oomph it needs at 7-10 thousand feet or when it has hard times going up hills at highway speeds, which it does.

I am a bit wary of not running a turbo ECU, but thats why Im hoping someone that has run this can chime in.

 

Ha .... I am not trolling at all, just after owning an old school turbo car, Ive become a believer in them. This 2TR could use some help.

When you own a super old car with a tiny 4cylinder turbo with 200K original miles on the odo and can go up mountain passes at 10000 feet in 4th gear as fast as you want while passing much newer fancier cars very quickly, because of the forced induction, you begin to realize how cool turbos are.

 

When I think cool turbo I don't think cheap Chinese crap.

 

Agreed, though I don't think it should be assumed its crap without evidence, still it would be easy to substitute a garret for extra $

Either way, this is a ways off for me, and comes down the list after locker, suspension, armor, tires, bumper etc (and the factory warranty)

 

I think it'd be rad if it worked, just seem to remember reading way too many "cheap turbo kit from China" stories that cost more to fix than it did to buy initially, and the turbos needed replacing anyway to be decent, not to mention tuning.

That said, none of those stories have ever been written by me.

 

Spends $26k on truck, risks destroying it with cheap Chinese turbo and (probably) little engineering into a kit made for a vehicle overseas.

Cool idea, but maybe save for a better option? This kit is like the bottom of the barrel for turbos.

 

A quality turbo set up that I'd trust on a 30k vehicle would cost much more than 6k.

 

stop crushing my dreams guys

 

URD makes a supercharger kit. At least one person on this site had it installed and working.

http://urdusa.com/store/p1260519050...coma-2.7L-2TR-FE-4-Cylinder/product_info.html
http://www.lceperformance.com/Supercharger-kit-for-2005-Tacoma-2-7L-2TR-FE-4-Cy-p/7015241.htm