2005 - 2023 Archive Garage Premium Shackle Flip Lift Kit

Thank you Eric! These are great looking parts.

I plan to eventually pair the shackle flip with a shock relocation to get the most benefit. I think for this year I'm just gonna install a set of ORI struts I recently picked up and the flip kit and measure for new rear shocks in the stock location.

 

My 2nd batch has sold out and the price increased $20 to $240 + shipping for Tacoma World members.
Message me to get code for that price of $240 (otherwise $260+ship on my site).
Discount applies only to the Tacoma kit at this time.

 

Hey bud, did you have a chance to droop out your setup and see if the shock is the limiting factor?

 

Haven't yet. Had a busy weekend preparing for a month long business trip I leave for next week. I'm gonna try this weekend though

 

I tuned the rear end of my setup so there is 1/2"of shock left at full droop the springs i have are my limiting factor

King 12" shocks in the rear

 

Your negative shackle angle is less than desirable. When you get the one side stuffed you'll have your shackle nearly in line with your leafs due to forced articulation. If you're lucky the shackle will go back to it's normal rear position, but you run the risk of the shackle flipping forward and bending the top leaf of your pack. Can you move the shackle hanger forward at all?

 

You posted the same thing before in post #68. The picture shows the spring is being arched here from weight of axle, the spring wants to flatten back out and get longer, so it isn't going to snap forward unless a sizeable force hits the shackle to make it happen

 

Chris, I would like to express my appreciation for the fact that you gave my kit a shot, but much more than that, you decided you wanted take your suspension towards extreme limits.
You didn't lounge around on forum threads wondering if it could be done, you went and did it and didn't let imagined boundaries stop you. That is bad ass, that is what gets stuff done.

 

Good news, this shackle flip kit is very compatible with spring under axle conversions, in fact it is actually better suited to SUA than SOA. I am really pleased with the shackle angles that result with the Deaver SUA springs that are designed to fit in the factory mounts. I worked with Jeff at Deaver Spring and member @Brosefff go check out his sweet '16 build here https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/brosefff-lt-build.401296/
Deaver underslung springs are usually set to a 1" lift, which is too low for many Tacoma owners, especially supporting extra weight, bumpers and tires carriers (Even the HD Deavers). This shackle flip should be a perfect fit because it brings min 1" of lift with the base 4" shackles. I also plan to offer 6" shackles shortly to allow customizing the shackle flip to the owners needs.
The red spring in drawing is approximate length with a Bed topper and HC bumper. The straight white line is the Deaver springs flattened out to full length, at which point the axle is way into the bumpstops. The white shackle at 66deg is foremost bracket position, the red shackle is rearmost position.

 

So far no issues with the shackle being inverted and the ammount of flex is awesome

 

Yup, sure did. I've tried to offer constructive criticism, but that's fallen on deaf ears. Good luck with your product.

 

Maybe the bracket is already moved forward as far as it can with out redrilling new holes.

 

That's not true. Please post something constructive like pics of ideal setups. You're basically saying "That's wrong" and nothing else. I'm asking that you educate myself and Tacoma owners, no drama in that right?

 

QUOTE="deeezy, post: 12183444, member: 111645"]Maybe the bracket is already moved forward as far as it can with out redrilling new holes.[/QUOTE]

Dana, the brackets are all the way forward, yes. Chris is running OME Dakars, which run shorter than other lift springs. I am offering a kit that is a good starting point for the bolting positions. I have AVERAGED out a solution for the many options and brands of springs.

There is the option to slide the brackets further forward or back and drill new holes in frame. Even welding them in is viable.

 

So I won't put words in his mouth, but my take on what he's trying to say is that ideally a shackle would not go beyond vertical. While you are correct in that the natural action of the suspension in the picture DCLBFTW posted will return to it's normal state, there is a possibility, however remote it may be, that the suspension will receive some sort of input to drive the shackle forward and invert it.

The shackle angles you posted for the Deaver SUA setup are more in line with an "ideal" leaf spring/shackle setup. But like you already said, it's an average solution to account for the many variables in the suspension equation and is somewhat subject to personal preferences.

 

Well said Adventurous

 

Since you asked for an explanation here it is.

The shackle in the picture that I quoted will be in line with the leaf springs at full extension. The leafs want to push backwards along the leaf during compression. If the shackle is in line with the leaf you run the risk of the shackle going forward, not backwards to rest. If you're in a situation where you have a tire fully drooped and have to back up you run the risk of the shackle inverting. Typically you wont see inversion when going forward, unless you're dropping off a ledge and touch the leaf spring. That's certainly possible now that you have a standard shackle configuration, not the OEM toyota shackle setup where you would contact the hanger.

General rule of thumb is that you want a vertical shackle at full extension, that way the shackle always wants to go back to it's home position.

Here are the shackles on my truck. At this point I still have a bit of extension to go and the shackle hasn't quite reached vertical. Forced articulation will cause the leafs to extend even further. Typically you can add one inch to your at rest droop for forced articulation.



At rest my shackles are around 50 to 55 degrees.



I'm not trying to knock your product at all, but it is nearly impossible to find a solution for every leaf spring out there, even with multiple mounting holes. You designed it around one leaf pack, but you have customers with every leaf pack under the sun. It will work for some, but not all.

I even had to cut off my mounts and reweld them after I built them. My initial numbers were close, but I needed a bit more angle to keep the shackles from going past vertical. You can get close by measuring the length of the leafs and shackle, but it comes down to tacking them in place and measuring.

 

Anyone running this shackle kit with a bamf relocation and stock leafs, how is it?

 

I dont think you would need the shock relocation kit if you ran with stock leafs

They dont flex much

 

Hmm gocha haha. Well I'm guess I'm adding a new leaf pack to the list. What pack works well with this kit?