WHY the difference? Man vs Auto

So why on earth would Toyota procude the 6spd Man Trans to turn at higher RPMS in sixth gear compared to the auto (at highway speeds)?

Why wouldn't they just gear the man the same, I wouldn't mind a little better MPG!!!! I heard it before but i'll say it again - 16 MPG for mixed driving is about what i'd get with a bigger, more powerful F150!

Don't get me wrong i love my taco....just trying to see the logic behind toyota's decision?

Plus F150 (and Ford) overall are really stepping it up now a days!

I have an 09 AC SR5 and I'm just praying that it was made with the same quality of those early tough ass trucks! Sad part is we will all have to wait ten years to find out!

Maybe Toyota is now producing average trucks,, and riding the success and name brand of the earlier years? just a thought. (and i know i'm not the only one who has thought of this)

 

no one wants to comment and take the bait?

 

really? what year? how do you drive? what is the average temp you drive in? Why is my v6 getting 16MPG??????????????????????????

 

my average is 18 to 23 mpg.city to highway.thats using amsoil and 92octane.and yeah i do get passed once and a while.

 

Hey, you dont need to shift going up hills or w/ a trailer.

I get by on only 20 mpg all summer long, got my worst tank yesterday since March at 17.5 w/ 4wd snow n' cold. Dont think an F150 is gonna see that.

You coulda bought an auto...

 

i average around 19 mpg in the city with my v6 auto.

 

my father in law(72 years young) has a 02 king ranch 4x4 cc/5.4 triton auto and he gets 18.5 to 19.2 mpg. not bad for a fs truck.

 

auto's were more $$ and the dealer sdidn't have what i wanted in auto...they were all TRDs

 

I know how you feel BSP4x4

I was ecstatic when i actually got 19.33MPG the other day but in Tampa traffic i average about 16 MPG or worse

 

i have the same truck as you do...v6/6 speed access cab, BSP too I average 17-19 mpg in mixed driving. i keep the rpms around 2500 when shifting. What rpms are you shifting at?

 

I have an 09 Fx4 F-150 and get about 16.5 mpg every fill up. I went on a 3000 mile trip from Kansas to Montana and back and got right at 19.5 average.

I would like to buy a Toyota but dont know if they will get that much better mileage!

 

I've gotten as bad as 15 in my 06 DC SB, and only 17.7 for a high ...love the truck, hate the mpg.

 

if fuel milage is a factor,ide say stick to your ford.

 

when i had my 6 speed i got 17 mpg until i got about 10k on it the it went up to 19.5 how many miles do you have on it the winter gas will also affect your mpg i switched to an auto about 2 months ago and i am getting 18 mpg but it only has 3k on it with a 3" lift and 32' tires the 6 speed is a pos i love the auto it runs about 1900 rpm at 60 mph i hope i can pull 20 mpg after winter

 

thanks for the info guys! i have about 9K on the truck and shift at 2K rpm. except from 1st to 2nd i shift at about 2500. should i expect a bump in mpgs when i hit 10K miles? ....i'm also going to switch to red line mt90 in the trans and mobile 1 in the engine. it's getting cold here in maine now (19 degrees) also, i have the stock DNLPS 245/75/16 and i wanna get the bfg at 265/75/16's. thoughts?

 

im less curious about peoples mileage and more curious about the initial subject...

 

yes! sorry to stray off topic...does anyone have a theory as to why the difference? the only thing i can think of is that toyota maybe thinks people who buy the manual, tow more? and if towing you would want a lower gear at highway speeds?

 

yeah this is a rhyme to that reason i guess.....anyone else