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Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Siafu, Jul 2, 2008.

  1. Jul 3, 2008 at 7:52 PM
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    Okkine

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    Out of curiosity, how much does having a cap over the bed affect the mpg's? I assume it would be for the better, however slight.
     
  2. Jul 3, 2008 at 8:47 PM
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    Wonder if just leaving the tailgate down will help increase mileage? I think I'll try it on my trip to Vincennes, IN next week.
     
  3. Jul 3, 2008 at 11:18 PM
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    Depends on the cap maker I think. I had one on my old ranger that sucked air down between the cab and bed. Lost about 1-2mpg.
     
  4. Jul 4, 2008 at 12:02 AM
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    I've always had soft tonneau covers on my trucks - and after the initial install of them on each truck, they gained 1-2mpg.

    Mybusters did some testing on covers & such. They tested a hard cover but never tested a soft one. They always seem to miss things when they do their scenarios. The hard cover didn't do as well as you'd think - but I think the 'weight' of it hindered the results. They never tested pappy caps either.
     
  5. Jul 4, 2008 at 5:32 AM
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    I wouldn't think they'd need to test soft vs. hard covers. Their test wasn't weight related, but aerodynamics related. A hard cover is going to break the vortex of air created by an open bed with the tailgate up just as much as a soft cover.
     
  6. Jul 4, 2008 at 7:16 AM
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    It could be weight related.... they tested with tailgate up, tailgate down, hard cover, and tailgate removed w/ net.

    The tailgate removed with netting was the best of all the scenarios.

    You wouldn't think...but how else would weight not be a factor? You can't tell me that goofy netting was the reason.....
     
  7. Jul 4, 2008 at 7:42 AM
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    My mpg improved 2-3 with one of these. http://www.leer.com/100rpage.html
    2.7, reg cab, 5 speed, combined city/hwy avg 27 mpg.
    I wouldn't get the canopy for the mpg, but it's a nice bonus. Got it to protect my upright bass etc.
     
  8. Jul 4, 2008 at 9:45 AM
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    It could be a factor by still creating the vortex and allowing some air to pass through. Tailgate down was the worst (or one of the worst) due to air coming over the cab and slamming into the tailgate (due to no vortex) and causing more drag.

    http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/11/episode_43_seasickness_cures_f.html

    As you can see in this one, open bed with tailgate up was about the same as with a hard cover. So if no cover = lighter and hard cover = heavier, how is a soft cover going to be different? I don't see any difference in MPG when my wife and 3 kids are in the truck, so how is a tailgate going to make a difference? My wife weighs more than my tailgate! :laugh:

    http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2006/12/episode_64_more_myths_revisite.html
     
  9. Jul 5, 2008 at 7:42 AM
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    If that were the case, every auto maker in the world would call for premium gas (they don't care what you pay) and claim higher mpg numbers. Your OBDII is calibrated to run on a particular octane. I do question the Toyota 4.0, though, since the FJ uses the same motor/transmission and calls for premium:confused: What I am certain of is that mine runs great on what is called for, and I'm not dropping one extra cent for the oil companies...
     
  10. Jul 5, 2008 at 7:52 AM
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    The 4.0 in the FJ is the sam engine, and tuning. With premium fuel, it will make a few more h.p. and a bit more Tq.
    The 1GR-FE is the 4.0L version. Bore is 94 mm and stroke is 95 mm. Output is 236 hp (176 kW) at 5200 rpm with 266 lb·ft (361 N·m) of torque at 4000 rpm on 87 octane, and 239 hp (178 kW) at 5200 rpm with 278 lb·ft (377 N·m) at 3700 rpm on 91 octane. This engine features Toyota's single VVT-i, variable valve timing, system and a compression ratio of 10.0:1. Inside, the 1GR uses a taper-squish combustion chamber design with matching pistons to improve anti-knocking and engine performance, while also improving intake and fuel efficiency. Toyota adopted a siamese-type intake port, which reduces the surface area of the port walls and prevents fuel from adhering to such walls. This engine has special cast-iron cylinder liners cast into the block, which are a spiny type to improve adhesion between the liner and cylinder block. With these special thin liners it is impossible to bore the block. In the event of cylinder wall damage (scoring, deep protrusions, etc), the entire cylinder block must be replaced. For increased block rigidity, the 1GR also receives a high temperature plastic insulator/protector, which fills the empty space between the outer portion of the cylinders and block material common to open deck engines. For increased cooling efficiency, the 1GR employs water passages between the bores of the engine. There are such 2 passages for each bank for a total of 4. This reduces cylinder hot-spotting and keeps combustion chamber temperatures more uniform.
     
  11. Jul 5, 2008 at 8:37 AM
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    Not all engines do better with premium. Some engines (such as the 1GR-FE) can operate on regular and premium, but do better with premium. I have tested premium vs. regular and I've noticed a difference.

    huh? Is it OK if I just run a few tanks with premium and then a few with regular and compare them?
     
  12. Jul 5, 2008 at 9:24 AM
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    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    I was laughing as I posted that! I knew you would enjoy all the extra, pointless info. :D
    And by all means, compare the results. Im in the process of doing the same. :)
     
  13. Jul 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM
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    If premium does help, it would be more cost effective today than a few years ago... 10 or 20 cents more a gallon is a pretty small percentage when you are looking at $4 per gallon vs. $4.20. When gas was $1.50, then $1.70 was a bigger jump. If you get some numbers on the comparisons, please post them...
    Thanks for the info.
     
  14. Jul 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM
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    I've run 87 for the 2 years I've had it. A few months back I tried running 89 for a month just to see if it made a difference since it was only an extra 10 cents/gallon. I got slightly better mpg, but the cost per mile was the same so I was paying more for a proportionate increase in range. No real incentive to run higher octane for me unless I want to fill up 30-50 miles later (forget what the numbers worked out to be), and pay more at that time. Essentially for me it would mean 1 more trip to work or back home before a more expensive fill up.
     
  15. Jul 5, 2008 at 3:27 PM
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    New air filter, clean out the junk (weight is an MPG killer), tire inflation, synthetic oil and trany fluid (if automatic), ease up on the speed, Seafoam the gas and throttle body. I have a 2000, 2.7L, 5 speed, 4x4 Access cab and I get 25-26 mpg on the highway at 65-70mph on cruise control, no cap or tonneau cover, 235/75 r15 Geolander A/T at 35psi. Some tires rob MPG. Aggressive treads that are good for off road are poor for MPG, usually.
     

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