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Engine Swap?

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Copperhead, Mar 31, 2016.

  1. Mar 31, 2016 at 3:29 PM
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    Will a 2JZ-GTE MKIV fit?

    Thanks
     
  2. Apr 1, 2016 at 7:48 PM
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    Fit in an S-Runner, so yes.
     
  3. Apr 1, 2016 at 10:11 PM
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    Weight. Driveline. Emissions. LS swap could run between 10-20 thousand all told, and it may not be emissions legal in the 2009 Tacoma anyway.
    SC kit for 2.7 with injectors, fuel system mods and clutch will probably run about $6000.00
    Trying to figure out if dropping in an OEM spec 2JZ might be less expensive and not require a complete driveline, and be ADEQ friendly.
     
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  4. Apr 15, 2016 at 10:57 AM
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    LS1-T56 swap, Z06 ported heads, cam, Titanium valves, Kevlar clutch. Now building a forged stroker (383) and all the ponies! Old setup was rod-knockin on heaven's door...
    Nah, an LS wont cost that much if you do it right, and they are pretty light if you get an aluminum block type.
    I have an LS1 in mine, best mod ever.
    2JZ isnt a bad swap either, both would put a smile on your face...
     
  5. Apr 15, 2016 at 11:01 AM
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    Have you posted pics of that...if not can you, I've got a little bit of a soft spot for the whole ls engine family
     
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    The weight is only 200ish over a Miata 1.8 motor. Lots of LS and 5.0s rolling around in them.

    Agree the driveline needs attention.

    In all it will be way cheaper than a 3rd Gen. More cool. More functional. :D
     
  7. Apr 15, 2016 at 11:07 AM
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    It fits with a tad of massaging!
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    I want a LS in my 2nd gen so bad I cant see straight :D
     
  9. Apr 15, 2016 at 11:15 AM
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    Anything can be made to fit, but while your at it, might as well make it off road driven only. I don't know about everywhere else, but a swap must be same age or newer. Upgrade only, no downgrade.

    And then you'll have to deal with all the electronics. Some skipped out on it because it gets more difficult. I think 07 and newer gets more complex.
     
  10. Apr 15, 2016 at 12:12 PM
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    Thanks for the replies. I am pursuing an emissions legal daily driver, plug it in at the inspection place every two years and it passes type of swap.
    Trying to find Phoenix area shops that might know the ins and outs of using the 2JZ. Hoping to keep it all Toyota to simplify electronics and engine management.
    Hoping that I can use existing drivetrain with a heavy duty clutch.
     
  11. Apr 15, 2016 at 2:45 PM
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    I don't see why it wouldn't work. I think you can even use your same transmission. Not sure if you have an auto or a manual. But the auto in the Tacoma (A340) is the same transmission they used in the Supra at that time. The manuals are different, but I think you can get a bell housing to bolt onto the R-155 (that would be what's in the 2.7 5-speed Tacoma) to bolt up to the 2JZ-GTE. That's just my hunch. I'd love to see you pull this off. Are you trying to build some monster motor or just swapping in a stock 2JZ-GTE?
     
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    LS1-T56 swap, Z06 ported heads, cam, Titanium valves, Kevlar clutch. Now building a forged stroker (383) and all the ponies! Old setup was rod-knockin on heaven's door...
    I did the swap in a 98, just had the front yoke swapped out for the Chevy version and cut to length the stock Toyota driveshaft, got a T56 trans and plugged it in.
    Only fuel system mod was a bigger pump but it already had that, the lines are fine for anything under 600hp. Rear end on that should be an 8.4". plenty strong.
    I was even using the stock radiator for a few years.
    However it all comes down to your fab skills and or wallet size, I can do it all myself which makes the swap a lot more affordable.
    The electrical on the LS is cake, and you just use HP Tuners to modify your tune.

    They have signal modifiers to get the speedo to work from the transmission.

    Just get a swap from the motor to the driveshaft and mate it all up.
     
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    Lots of BS in my thread below but some of my build pics as well. It now has fully ported ZO6 vette heads with the Ti valves and rev limiter hits at 6800rpm (sounds amazing at full song), also put a mid sized cam in as well as a ported oil pump, head studs and some other stuff in preparation for turbocharging later on this year. I am rebuilding my exhaust system next week, with a dual 3" into a single 3" exhaust to make it quieter, and will still have plenty of flow.
    I also just rebuilt the transmission with upgraded billet shift keys, brass shift fork guides, etc..

    Plan to be putting down 550-600 at the wheels with a low boost setup as my bottom end is fully stock for now, dont want to break it before I upgrade the short block.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/anybody-know-of-any-1st-gen-tacos-with-ls1-conversions.126357/
     
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    Hey man i got some questions as i want to do this swap myself...
     
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    Its not an easy one in 5 lug, I dont know of any other ones besides mine, I believe I Pioneered this swap.
    Gotta make custom headers and modify/notch your welded in crossmembers as well as a modified (notched and rewelded GTO oilpan)
    Thats with a manual trans..
     
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    Welp I got a 6 lug and a company called CXracing makes headers, mounts and a oil pan. My plan was to use a TH400 as it has no wiring and such. I also planned to make the engine carbureted, as to deal with less wiring. Wadda yah think?
     
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    The auto trans is much larger, not sure it would fit without major tunnel mod work.
    And if I were you ditching the EFI isnt a good idea. The wiring is the least of your troubles, I think only 6 wires were needed from the ECU for the swap, very easy.
    I have seen that kit, would help a lot. I dont know of anyone who has installed one, but give it a shot.
     
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    Think I should keep the efi? Well if it's really that simple, I guess so. But another concern I have is speedo, tach, fuel gauge, water temp etc. what did you do for stuff like that? Also i don't really have the money for a t56 so if i have to cut the tunnel it may be worth it for me...
     
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    EDIT: Just found your build log thing on LS1tech forums. So i guess you didn't use any toyota gauges and such? Lol the more i sit here to more questions pop into my head :D What about blinkers, brake lights, headlights and interior lights? how did you wire all that?
     
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  20. May 10, 2016 at 4:33 PM
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    I only have fuel and temp gauges, my cluster doesnt have a tach...
    All the other lighting is fine, doesnt go through the ECU, so blinkers and all those other lighter arent affected.

    Yes absolutely, if you want the gauges to work like stock its going to be difficult as the signals you need to run them is totally different.
    But getting the motor to work isnt hard with only those 6 wires and your good to go, probably best to add aftermarket gauges considering the work it would take to get the stock Toyota stuff to work.

    How much did I spend on what? I didnt really keep track of everything..
     

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