Receiver Winch Install - Front and Rear

Nice set up

 

Any ideas on how to attach the two ground 3/8 terminal lugs from the Anderson connectors to the battery ground?

... I thought of getting a longer bolt but it will be to skinny. Is there an adapter of some sort where I don't have to mess with theach factory connectors?

 

Ignore what I said... I just grounded it to a different ground. I finally finished it. Awaiting for some more split loom to come in the mail.

 

Great winch setup! Like the mounting bar in the bed!

 

How's the setup going?

 

Reviving this thread, doing a similar install right now. I got 2GA jumper cables with the anderson plug on one end to run from front to rear and i’m going to use the same bluesea 9003e switch.

Do you not need a fuse between the battery and the 9003E switch? I see one was not used here, just wondering.

I dont have auxiliary studs on my battery, does anyone recommend any accessory mounts that fit over the battery studs?

 

Glad someone else revived it. I just happen to be doing this exact same setup on my rig. Just trying to decide on a winch

 

After much debate I went with a smittybilt 9500 and i’ll upgrade it down the road. Using the mobtown recovery bar on the front and I bought a 2GA jumper cable set with anderson connectors off Amazon. Using that same bluesea 9003e switch aswell. Keep us updated!

 

Is the 9003E switch a circuit breaker or just a straight disconnect? If it's a circuit breaker too, then no. If it's not, then yes.

 

Holy thread revival @qnyla !!!

I'm wondering what you used to add that front receiver to your ARB bumper.

 

@tacoma16 made this for me. Some spacers, nuts and bolts. A thick plate and the 2" receiver.







It mounts to the already existing holes, no changes to the bumper. Other than slightly enlarging the opening for the weld around the base of the 2" receiver.

 

This thread back again... with these hitch mounted winch setups what is the weak link in the system? Can a standard Class III or IV 2" receiver/pin be used and get a shear strength that will be above the winch stall strength (say 10k lbs)? I know class III is 8K lbs, often 10k lbs towing GVW but I am not sure how that compares to a steady shear force. a 10K lb trailer would only put a 10k lb load on the hitch when accelerating or decelerating at 1g, which would be unlikely on a truck with no load, let alone one that is loaded up with a trailer... I think.

My intention is to find out if a 8-10k winch on a receiver mounted adapter would be able to overload the connection to the truck, or if the winch would still be the weak link. I'd like the piece of mind and recovery ability of a winch without having to keep it mounted on the front bumper 24/7 if I would only potentially need it 2-3 trips a year plus the occasional off-road excursion inbetween. Storing it in the garage and having a mount for it in the bed when heading out would be ideal, but not if I half the winch's useable pulling capacity by the attachment to the truck.

 

After some heavy discussion on the topic with other members here, I decided against this setup in the end. I am just installing my winch in my ARB bumper as its designed.

Apparently our trucks front end attachment point for the bumper is a 'weak' point. Putting the winch out another 12 - 14 inches and applying side pull pressure could rip the bumper attachment points right off. After seeing some images of proof it has happened. I just decided against it.

Even thought the ARB bumper has side support mounts, the bumper is designed to have the winch in it. After being told that many many times. I could'nt convince myself other wise in the end.

 

Thanks for the reply! I knew about the bumper attachment not being durable but I didn't think about the extra leverage with a receiver type setup if not pulling inline with the chassis.

During your heavy discussions was there any talk about reinforcing the weak parts of the bumper attachment? I have seen some aftermarket plates that look like they wrap around a chassis member to turn a tension joint into a shear joint but I don't know how much it improves sideloads. I suppose installing the winch for adventures a couple times a year and removing it when done really wouldn't be that hard to do, I just don't want to expose the winch and the cable/synthetic lead to weathering as this is going to be on the vehicle I drive most of the time when there is no salt on the roads.

 

Yes there are some plates you can get, like the BAMF ones. But as I said the ARB bumper comes with side support tension brackets as part of the bumper. Which help with this issue.


I understand what you are saying about not wanting the winch to be exposed to salt and winter conditions. I live in winter 6 months of the year, and they put some awesome stuff on the roads here. I figure I can just do maintenance on the winch once a year like I am supposed to and keep it in good condition. It is designed to go on the front in those exact conditions, it is tested for salt exposure and what not. It took me quite a while to give up on the front and rear winch idea.

I have gotten over it, just getting my cables today for installing my Warn Zeon 10-S into the ARB bumper.

 

that makes no sense at all. The bumper attach points are weak, but putting the winch in a bumper fixes this.

I have the Mobtown hidden hitch, and have done a few very heavy pulls with no issue.

@GrundleJuice A good pin is stronger than 10K lbs in shear, and since you have 2 shear planes.......
I used to have a link that showed the math, but can't find it now.

 

Putting it out 12 - 14" creates a long lever, then put side pull pressure on that. Yes its a thing. Think more about it.

Most if not all winch pulls are off center or side pulls, with self recovery.

 

I know all about moments and arms. What is the stress difference per bolt (we'll assume uniform loading) ? Give 12" arm, 20 degree lateral pull, 5000 lbs line tension.

Show your work.

 

You can do all the maths you wish, and show your work.

Common sense just made me realize what I was doing was wrong. Took some others to make me come to this realization.

Do what ever you want its your truck.

 

As I understand it, hardware and shear strength are not the problem. Bumper attachment and the structure it's attached to is not up to the heavy lateral loads or especially high tension loads.