FS: LC Engineering Headers Tacoma 2.7L 4CYL 05-13

The time as come to finally get rid of these headers that were used on my previous 05 2.7L 4Cyl Tacoma. Some scratches from install/removal. Can include used gaskets as well.

Will fit: 2005-2013 Toyota Tacoma 2TR-FE 2.7L 4 Cyl

P/N: 1041055

Asking $300 + Shipping

PM me if you are interested.

 

That statement is not true. Contact LCE and you will find out that it won't fit 2014 and up...maybe even 2012 and 2013. The air injection unit will have several millimeters of interference that requires some milling in order to get it to install. I'm not sure how you can claim it'll fit 2016, LCE doesn't even claim that. LCE has updated their headers to accommodate the change in air injection unit...if you look at Toyota part number, they've changed the part number several times.

OP, Far as price, you can ask for anything in your sale, but as a suggestion you are asking more than new given they need to replace the one time gaskets and donut.

Good luck with your sale, just helping members and probably yourself from avoiding install purchase problems if they have a newer Taco.

 

For your reference: http://www.lceperformance.com/Street-Header-Kit-2005-2016-2TR-2-7-Liter-Tacoma-p/1041055.htm

It seems like you are saying that these headers won't fit 12',13' and 14' just because of grinding down the air injection unit.
The air injection unit needed to be ground down on my 05.

I am not claiming anything, I am re-stating what Lce has listed on their site.

As far as price, I don't think you know what Or best offer means (O.B.O)

Before you come posting in my thread stating how it won't fit these different year Tacomas, back it up with some proof.

 

I can vouch for the OP that I am running that LCE header on my 2013 Tacoma 2.7L

 

My order shows 05-15 and when I checked google it shown this...

Proof was I was the unfortunately had a new unit end of last year that didn't fit. LCE had to get a 2015 head into their shop and verify it didn't fit; then sent me a new unit. It wasn't something of just a little grinding, I looked at your pictures and it requires about several mm of material to removal. They had to send it off to get ceramic coated again. LCE has great support...they stood behind it and resolved it. My discovery was the reason why they updated their headers.

I was trying to help you and others from getting an older unit and then causing yourself and others grief when it wouldn't fit and then grinding away the ceramic coating to make it fit.

LCE removed material away so I could just install the header onto the engine block... forget about getting the air injection unit on. You couldn't just grind away the air injection unit like the instruction said on some models.... the header wouldn't go onto the engine block. The revised version works and LCE is very helpful.

I always thought forums was supposed to be a place to help each other... TW lately seems more about picking fights and less helping.

You originally list $400 OBO. I paid $5 more new...I see you changed your price now, but again trying help you point out of some issues and all you do try to be insulting.

http://www.lceperformance.com/Street-Header-Gasket-Set-2TR-2-7L-4cyl-05-10-p/1040017.htm

The gasket set alone is $80. $350 + 80 is how much? I'm sure you can do math... You are truly an unappreciative person. Trying to point out the issues to newer Taco owners can have and to point for you that you are asking 96% value of a new unit from LCE without warranty..

 

More than anything else, in every fuckin thread on here lately, that..............


Might want to take up the listing issue warnings with LCE because their site says same thing as OP posted in first post as far as year range and part number and the pic on their site doesn't show the cut out area like the pic above shows for air injector clearance.

http://www.lceperformance.com/Street-Header-Kit-2005-2016-2TR-2-7-Liter-Tacoma-p/1041055.htm

Neither my 05 nor my 08 required anything but bolting the thing on. I had no air injector clearance issues. Mine shows same material in flange area that required milling in pic above. Did Toyota change air injector casting?





Where was it exactly that this header with gaskets and warranty were had new shipped for $405 ? I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in that.

 

LCE is a small shop, but good folks... they thought it would fit 2014 and 2015 etc. They don't go every year and test fit unfortunately... so when I got mine for 2014 model Taco...it didn't fit...header would not bolt on let alone have the air injection unit fitment issue. Seems like 2013 fits for certain build date, but I can tell you my 2014 did not and LCE confirmed their 2015 head did not fit.

I don't know when OP bought his header for his 05, but I looked at his pictures and can tell it wouldn't fit 2014 and was trying to help, but didn't get a nice response.

It's not where, but when...I got it with 10% off sale from LCE + shipping was extra but that's not the point. OP was asking 400, even with OBO... the cost of gasket and not knowing it's going to fit 2014+...it would have been a bad situation for the buyer if they had a newer truck and that's all I pointed out... you pay $350 or whatever price plus $80 in gaskets and then the cost to mill and then recoat the header (cost more than new). For older trucks...I'm sure it won't be a problem and the buyer may need to grind down the air injection unit. I didn't have to on my truck...just couldn't get header onto the engine block until they removed the flange area and into the welded area. Doing so probably solved the air injection unit interference as well.

Oh yeah...I think Toyota changed the head casting for the embossed mounting area of the air injection unit...that's why LCE got a 2015 head from somewhere temporarily and they agreed after I shown them many pictures and talked with them over the phone. They sent me new unit and paid shipping for the return of the old unit. I had a few concerns afterwards and they were always responsive and polite.

 

to the op: i've been considering getting 1 of these and have heard great things about them what was your complaint? i'm just weighing pro's and con's right now from people that have experience with the product

 

Pro - you can go uphill grade without bogging down and not having to shift down to 4th if your RPMs were high enough. For money spent... it is probably best upgrade you can do...but don't expect gobs of power... just helps with less bog and little more pick me up. I went from 3.31 to 3.73 3rd member swap and it's about the same step up in performance for me...just my take.

Con - I didn't see MPG improvement...maybe opposite, but that could be because it had a little bit more pep so you gas more...but I track my MPG and seeing it going down 1 MPG or so. I recently got new gears and tires so that clouds the issue more.

Real con - on cold start up, the smog pump dumps fumes into the engine bay and then into cabin if you have the fan out. After start up no issue or engine warm. I didn't notice this issue with stock header. LCE response was that it could be the ECU not compensating for the extra air flow. Workaround, don't have fan on during cold start up. Once smog pump turns off..I don't smell this issue.

But I'm confused of your question to the OP...can't you explain what you meant about his complaint?

After you dremel, did you have your header recoated...how much of the jet coat did you remove or how much material did you remove? The point of the coating is to keep the heat in... The new header doesn't use the stock heat shield. That's the point of the ceramic coating. So if you removed material of a long section as shown in the picture I posted...you are going to have a hot spot. When LCE removed material away on the new piece...they didn't just send it me as is...they had to send it out to get it new ceramic coating applied.

It may not be a concern for you...but for me, hot spot is bad...thermal expansion of a hot spot versus cold spot over time can be a problem.

 

I had to dremel some to get them to fit on my 09' AC. Was annoying but nothing major. Worth every penny and minute spent on it too.

 

Thanks for sharing your experience with them not fitting your truck. But do not call me an unappreciative person when you do not know a thing about me. That is totally uncalled for. If you have any more points to make across about this header, PM me instead of trying to bash me..

This is a For Sale thread and should be treated as such.

 

Chris,

No complaints here man, just take note that you have to grind down the Air Injection unit that mounts above the header as it will not fit due to the taller flange of the headers.
Once they're bolted on and after your truck adjusts properly to them, you can really feel the difference the headers make. Definitely some re-gained torque after putting bigger tires on the truck, made highway driving easier and uphills less difficult to climb... haha. Depending on what you plan to do to and with your truck, In my opinion it's the best bolt on mod you can do to the 4 bangers after bigger tires to re-gain some of that lost torque.

 

I posted a concern about the sale because you said your header will fit up to 2016. I know the header did not and then you posted the asking price that was more than or close to new without warranty (given the new gasket requirement) and with the fitment issue, but your response was a snide remark that I didn't know what OBO and then asking for proof before I dare post on this thread.

My first post to this thread was a short response for concerns on several key things to help the members of this forum. It was never my intention to bash you, but your response you gave the reason why I said you were unappreciative person. I'm not going to comment anymore since this is your sale thread, I just wanted to point out of issues that I would want to know if I would make a purchase and end up costing me hours of headaches and no money savings instead spend more money than new if I had a 2014 or newer Taco.

I didn't see the point of a PM versus posting because there were a few technical issues that would affect members (buyers). Good luck with your sale.

 

since he had used them and removed them and said they had made his truck feel different i assumed which he probably shouldn't have that there was a complaint

 

thanks that's great info. i have been reading about them on here and watched their installation video and it all looks pretty srtait forward may be a good christmas present

 

Of course man. Any time. Take note that when you install the headers in, you'll have to unbolt the collector to the manifold to give it more room as it is almost impossible for it to fit the flange on the bottom of the header with the exhaust donut on there.

 

For any future reference for members reading through this thread and having concerns about this header, I took the liberty to contact Wes over at Lc Engineering and here's what he had to say.

"Good Morning Carey,


Thank you for taking the time to e mail us about the questions about the evolution of our header, I truly appreciate when people take time to find out the whole story about things rather than just jumping to conclusions.

The initial statement about fitment for our earlier model headers is correct. Our early design header fits the 2005-2013 cylinder heads / air injection system, and on some of the later models 11/12/13 there is a chance that you will need to clearance the bottom of the air injection valve for proper fitment onto the cylinder head the amount is minimal and will not negatively affect the valve in any way.


Now for the why did this happen.


When we originally designed the header (100% manufactured in house), it was designed using a 2013 cylinder head, which at the time was the latest part available, the only downside to this is that the head we modeled off had the boss for the air injection for location but that was all. So once the header was released we found that there were multiple different air injection valves some fit just fine, and some had to be clearanced a bit on the bottom of the valve to get proper fitment.


It was not until one of our customers “James” contacted us about a fitment problem with a later model 2014 that we found out Toyota had once again made some changes in their designs. We went back to the drawing board with a 2015 cylinder head, valve, air tube and updated the head flange to insure proper fitment for all year / models. The new updated headers have been modified to allow for proper fitment onto the head without any modifications needed for the air injection systems and will work for 2005-2016 models. As for the gaskets, they are included with the headers when we send them out and it is recommended that they be replaced at time of install of the new header.


Carey, If your asking 300.00 for the header even if the buyer has to get replacement gaskets that is still going to save about $100.00 over new so I think that’s a very fair asking price for a header that’s only about a year old.


Thank you again for taking the time to e mail about the headers. We are always glad to help and appreciate the continued support."


Wes Dosey

General Manager

LC Engineering

2031 Holly Ave
Lake Havasu City, Az 86403

928-505-2501

LCEPerformance.com

 

PM'd.
Thanks,