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Buzzy Vibration at certain RPM's..read before buying!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Doobiewah, Oct 25, 2015.

  1. Jun 7, 2016 at 9:42 AM
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    Here's the solution to the crosswind mirror sound:
    BFT18 said:
    The tubing seems to be 3/8" OD.

    When I took my truck in for the noise issue I just played it straight with the head maintenance guy. I told him I am not going to leave them with the truck because they aren't going to be able to reproduce the noise and it's going to waste everyone's time and their money. I said I was pretty confident that the noise was coming from the door seal area above the window as I could feel vibration there from the inside when the noise was present. He seemed to have some experience with this issue on 2nd gens and mentioned that the door seal is pretty wimpy. He said he had some scrap weather strip tubing that he could shove in the seal and see how that works. He simply pulled back the seal (not off, just out of the way) and shoved the tubing underneath the door seal. I took 20 seconds. Its not noticeable at all. It might not be worth the hassle to fight with a dealership on this if they aren't willing to help, just buy a couple feet of ~3/8" OD rubber tubing and do it yourself. Picture is the door seal bent back and rubber tubing underneath, and again the ends pulled out for an idea of the length/placement. It worked for me, but I was able to narrow it down to this area.

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  2. Jun 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM
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    Hold the phone, Toyota has the worst truck?! Yes, it may come as a shock, but the outgoing generation of Tacoma did not do very well when Consumer Reports tested it back in the spring of 2014.

    While "the redesigned 2016 model" we drove this past summer is damn near fantastic
    , the lows found in its predecessor are shockingly bad. Poor ride, sloppy handling, runway-length stopping distances, uncomfortable driving positions, high step-in angles, and painfully low rear seats all damaged the second generation Tacoma’s chances of scoring big, with even more issues lurking beneath the surface.
     
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  3. Jun 7, 2016 at 9:47 AM
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    Has the source of this issue been identified
    I am not seeing what you are referring to. Have a link?
     
  4. Jun 7, 2016 at 9:53 AM
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    Who cares
     
  5. Jun 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM
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    Thanks for the tip
     
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  7. Jun 7, 2016 at 10:45 AM
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    Found the article... http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/6-automobiles-that-define-poor-value.html/?a=viewall

    After reading it, it made me feel good about the 3rd gen.
     
  8. Jun 7, 2016 at 5:21 PM
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    I believe odyc1 is referring to:

    20 Cars to Avoid at All Costs in 2016

    Toyota Tacoma

    According to 2016 Tacoma owners, this truck leaves a lot to be desired. Not only is it hard to climb into because it’s a bit high off the ground, but vibration and steering is a constant problem [7]. That being said it does have its good points mainly that it works well for towing, hauling, and going off-road. That being said its “a chore to drive” according to Consumer Report. It’s up to you…is this the truck for you?


    Read more at http://www.shebudgets.com/lifestyle/20-cars-to-avoid-at-all-costs-in-2016/67732#D70BhQe0UD8ciEJj.99
     
  9. Jun 7, 2016 at 5:26 PM
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    If in case anyone's curious, the following is from Consumer Reports on the 2016 Tacoma (not that it state's any vibration issues):





    Toyota Tacoma Road Test
    While full-sized pickup trucks increasingly adopt luxury trappings, compact trucks remain utilitarian workhorses. The Tacoma is a reliable but down-and-dirty example of function trumping form.

    The Tacoma is the perfect truck for landscapers and contractors. This beast of burden has a bulletproof reliability track record, a tough-as-nails chassis, and a durable compositeplastic bed. For off-roading adventures, the capable Tacoma has few peers.

    And though the price nears that of discounted full-sized trucks, the compact Tacoma tenaciously holds its value.

    Hence, the Tacoma's cult following. But make no mistake, the Tacoma drives like a primitive, agricultural-era relic.

    For all of Toyota's claims that this is an all-new truck, key features seem as though Toyota slept through the past decade's advances in truck technology and interior design.

    Today's modern full-sized trucks feature a quiet cabin, a semblance of handling responsiveness, and a tolerable ride. But the compact Tacoma has none of that.

    Unlike other V6-powered Toyota models, our tested Tacoma never feels quick from a standing start or when passing -- despite the robust acceleration figures as measured on our track. Fuel economy with the not-so-smooth six-speed automatic transmission is 19 mpg overall on regular gas, quite good for a truck and a clear improvement over its predecessor.

    Out on the road, the Tacoma's handling is ponderous, and its slow and numb steering never connects the driver to the front wheels. Clearly clumsy around corners, it never felt unsafe.

    The chassis's propensity to jiggle and shudder delivers a Metallica snare-drum beat to your spine. Wind and engine noise drown out any chance of conversation, even at modest speeds. Braking performance is subpar.

    Inside, it still has a too-high step-in, a too-low driver's seat, and a ceiling that scrapes scalps of those entering the cabin.

    The front seats are flat and uncomfortable, have limited support, and offer only the most basic adjustments. The rear seat in our crew cab is no better, with hard padding, cramped leg and foot room, and short cushions -- although it flips up to reveal useful storage bins. Outward visibility is decent, but the narrow, shallow windows make it less commanding.

    Controls are basic and easy to read -- essential when reaching for some of the faraway knobs and buttons.

    True to its heritage as a work truck, the Tacoma admirably tolerates those sorts of duties. It trundled up our rock hill with ease. The damped tailgate is a charm to lower but a chore to raise. And though it varies based on the body and powertrain, our truck is rated to tow 6,400 pounds -- that's a 23-foot Airstream trailer, folks.

    Although a rear camera is standard, the Tacoma is not available with common advanced active-safety features such as forward-collision warning and lane-departure mitigation. Blind-spot monitoring is available on ritzier versions.

    By contrast, the competing Chevrolet Colorado is more modern-feeling, and the coming Honda Ridgeline will aim for refinement. Sure, you can outfit a Tacoma with leather trim, a premium stereo, and a moonroof. But for that price you can get a full-sized pickup with increased hauling capabilities, a roomier cabin, and a more comfortable ride.
    ROAD TEST SCORE

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    Based on the latest survey, we expect reliability of new models will be better than average
    The Driving Experience
    Handling The Tacoma feels unresponsive, with very clumsy handling. It tackles corners reluctantly, requiring a hefty steering input. Turn-in response is slow and the rubbery steering communicates zero feedback. Bumpy corners cause the truck to bob and rock.

    On the track, the Tacoma was out of its element, but not unsafe. It took a lot of effort to coax the truck through our avoidance maneuver. In the end, it posted a slow speed and its reluctant responses sapped driver confidence. That said, it didn't surprise the driver with any erratic behavior.

    In tight corners around our track the Tacoma wanted to run wide of the intended corner, but with the help of the ESC, the Toyota stayed on course and out of harm's way.

    Powertrain The 3.5-liter V6 often feels short on low-end torque and requires prodding of the gas pedal to get the truck to move smartly. The transmission is slow to jump in with a necessary downshift, and in wide-open throttle situations it shifts stiffly with an old-fashioned jolt.

    At least fuel economy is a commendable at 19 mpg overall on regular.

    The four-wheel-drive system is part-time only, which means you have to use your own judgment when to engage or disengage it when driving in and out of slippery conditions. It isn't meant for use on dry, paved roads.

    There's also a 2.7-liter four cylinder engine on lower-trim versions.

    Off-road The Tacoma ascended our rock hill course like a champ, gobbling up the slope with ease. It has ample ground clearance and axle articulation, and it was easy to modulate the throttle with measured inputs for delicate control. Low range allowed it to descend slopes with little need to apply the brakes.

    Versions with the TRD Off-Road 4x4 trim feature selectable terrain settings as well as crawl control; these settings electronically adjust traction control and throttle to facilitate extreme off-roading. Crawl mode can automatically work the throttle when climbing a steep hill, reducing wheelspin while maintaining a slow, deliberate speed. Our experience has shown that this works surprisingly well, especially for off-road neophytes.

    Towing The Tacoma Crew Cab can tow up to 6,700 pounds when equipped with the V6 engine and automatic transmission; opting for four-wheel drive or the manual transmission drops that by a few hundred pounds. Access Cab models can tow up to 6,800 pounds.

    Those numbers assume that you have the V6 Tow Package. Indeed, if you plan on towing, get that option, which includes the hitch, trailer wiring, and additional coolers for the engine oil, transmission fluid, and power steering fluid. It also adds trailer sway control, which can use the truck's stability control to try and reduce sway after it occurs, and a plug under the dashboard for easily connecting an electric trailer brake controller. Unlike the Chevrolet Colorado/GMC Canyon diesel, the Tacoma doesn't offer an integrated trailer brake controller.

    When we towed a 5,000-pound trailer we found there is a need to rev the engine to yield power, but it spins up smoothly and with little protest.

    Four-cylinder Tacomas can tow up to 3,500 pounds, regardless of the transmission or if the truck has two- or four-wheel drive.

    hill, reducing wheelspin while maintaining a slow, deliberate speed. Our experience has shown that this works surprisingly well, especially for off-road neophytes.

    Ride comfort The Tacoma's ride is downright uncomfortable. Constant rubbery jiggle gets under your skin over time. Any bump, rut, or lump in the road results in an abrupt, jolt to your back and kidneys. Even on a perfectly smooth highway the Tacoma transmits an underlying jitter.

    Noise Toyota claims the new Tacoma is quieter due to enhanced seals and the addition of a multi-layer acoustic windshield, sound-absorbing headliner, and a floor silencer pad. Indeed, road noise seems suppressed, but the V6 sounds like it's huffing and puffing with an abundance of fan roar. Wind noise starts to penetrate even at modest speeds, starting at around 45 mph. If you are looking for a quieter pickup, the Chevrolet Colorado is decidedly more tranquil.

    Braking Braking isn't one of the Tacoma's strong suits, with long stopping distances in both the wet and the dry. It also exhibited a lot of nosedive. The Toyota performed more like a half-ton instead of like other trucks in its segment. Brake pedal modulation seemed to satisfy everyone with decent feel and feedback.

    Headlights Halogen low and high beam lamps provide good forward visibility with decent light intensity.
    Inside The Cabin
    Interior fit and finish A windshield-located GoPro mount is a clue that the Tacoma yearns for adventure. But that's it lone interior strength. Indeed, almost every $20,000 sedan has a nicer interior than this $34,000 truck.

    Built more for ruggedness than plushness, the Tacoma's interior has little room for luxury. Other than a few swatches of padded vinyl on the dashboard and doors, everything is rock-hard to the touch. Silver-painted plastic accents are about as fancy as things get. You can see exposed screws in the sun visor mounts -- but why bother covering them up in this tough truck? The top-line Tacoma Limited trim adds leather seats, but that is merely a nod to civility.

    By comparison, the Chevrolet Colorado/GMC Canyon and second-generation Honda Ridgeline feel borderline decadent inside. At least everything feels solid and long-lasting in the Tacoma's cab, and other than some visible manufacturing lines on the door map pockets, components are well-assembled and constructed.

    Driving position Most trucks let you sit up high in the saddle -- not the Tacoma. It feels as if you're sitting relatively low, with the roof line looming close-by overhead. Tall drivers didn't have enough headroom. The inability to adjust the seat height is a major omission in a modern vehicle, especially given the price of higher-trim Tacomas. With a laughably small range of adjustment, the telescoping steering wheel feels like a cruel joke. At least there is good foot space with a spacious left foot rest.

    Visibility Driver visibility is decent but not as airy as you'd expect from a pickup truck. Windows are somewhat small and short, and the windshield roof pillar is fairly thick. Peering over the long, tall hood is difficult.

    As always in a truck, seeing what is behind the pickup bed is difficult, but a backup camera is standard on all Tacomas. Blind spot monitoring with cross traffic alert is available on the TRD Sport and TRD Off Road trims and comes standard on the Limited trim.

    Seat comfort Don't expect much comfort from the Tacoma's front seats. Flat-feeling front seats have unyielding padding, and short bottom seat cushions reduce thigh support. Adjustments are pretty basic; manual adjustments are limited to fore/aft, backrest recline, and driver's side lumbar. Almost every modern vehicle has a height-adjustable driver's seat, but not the Tacoma; many drivers wanted to be able to adjust seat height, but to no avail. No power adjustments are available either, even on the top-trim Limited.

    Adults can fit in the Double Cab's backseat, but it's not spacious. Leg and knee room is tight though behind the front seatbacks. A short bottom seat cushion and hard padding impair comfort. The Access Cab can fit two adults in the back for short trips only.

    Access Climbing into the Tacoma is awkward. It takes a big step up to climb into the Tacoma, but even shorter drivers need to be careful not to bump their heads on the low roof. There's no grab handle for the driver, so you might need to yank on the steering wheel to hoist yourself in. At least the door sills are flat.

    Think twice before getting the accessory running boards. They do provide an intermediate step, but since the Tacoma isn't that high off of the ground, this can be more of a hindrance than a help. The step's added height also means you have to be even more careful to duck beneath the relatively low roofline.

    Gauges The big gauges are easy enough to read, but unlike almost every other modern car, they aren't backlit during the day, which reduces some contrast. SR5, TRD, and Limited trim levels have a full-color display between the instruments, which shows trip, fuel economy, and audio information. Navigating the menus is easy enough through steering wheel-mounted buttons.

    Controls Almost all of the controls are refreshingly straightforward to use. Climate system adjustments are made with three simple knobs, but the setting marking could be more pronounced and easier to see.

    The relatively small, standard 6.1-inch touch screen shrinks the display graphics, making the onscreen preset "buttons" small and tightly-packed together. It's also a far reach to the radio for the driver.

    Infotainment All of the Tacoma's audio systems are branded as Entune, but there are three different levels. Base SR trim has Entune Audio, which is a basic touch screen unit. The SR5 comes standard with Entune Audio Plus, which has satellite radio and slightly more app support capability, including Scout GPS smartphone navigation. All higher trimlines come standard with Entune Premium Audio with Navigation.

    High points
    • Conventional knobs and buttons on basic systems
    • Customizable on-screen menus
    • Bluetooth streaming audio supports more extensive music library browsing than most systems
    • Apps are subscription free, using HD radio technology
    • Uplevel trims (TRD Sport, TRD Off Road, Limited) come with standard navigation
    • SR5's Scout GPS app allows for smartphone-based navigation, without the factory system
    Low points
    • Screen is a long reach from the driver
    • Entune Premium audio uses capacitive buttons, which are fussier than normal buttons
    • Only one USB port
    Navigation SR5 trim's Entune Audio Plus system supports Scout GPS, a smartphone-based navigation system that can use the car's screen to display maps and route guidance. It's free for multiple years. While it can reroute you based on traffic, it's not as well integrated as the factory navigation system, lacking its direction readout in the instrument panel between the gauges. Running this app can also quickly drain your smartphone's battery.

    The Premium Audio with Navigation system is more full-featured, and includes "casual speech recognition," allowing users to speak commands similarly to talking to someone. For example, "go home," "take me home," "navigate to my house," and "let's head home" all deliver the same results. However, this system still isn't as casual as cloud-based voice recognition systems like Siri and Google now.

    Apps Premium Audio systems support several popular apps, including OpenTable, Yelp, Pandora, and Slacker. Unlike many other cars, no smartphone app is available for remote lock/unlock, remote start, or vehicle tracking.

    Connectivity All Tacoma audio systems have a CD player, one USB port, one auxiliary port, Bluetooth audio streaming, and HD traffic and weather. Higher trim models have a Qi-compatible wireless phone charging pad ahead of the shifter. A standard GoPro camera mount is on the windshield near the rear view mirror.

    Climate features You must step up to at least the TRD Sport model if you want the optional dual-zone automatic climate control system; otherwise you get rudimentary system with manual climate control. One plus is that the AC works well. Heated seats are optional.

    Cabin storage Front passengers enjoy a large open bin on the console in front of the shifter -- a perfect spot to stash a phone. The covered bin between the front seats is accommodating. The driver also gets a rubber-lined coin holder to the left of the steering column.

    Cup holders Those riding up front share two cup holders in the center console. Since the tested SR5 model has no fold-down center armrest in back, rear passengers make do with two cup holders located at the far end of the aforementioned center console. All for doors have built-in bottle holders.

    Truck Bed It is nice to have a pickup with bedsides low enough that you can easily reach over the sides to retrieve or load items. The tailgate is lockable and is nicely damped for easy smooth lowering, but closing the tailgate takes some muscle. It can also be removed after disconnecting the wire to the rear camera. Having a composite bed is a nice feature. It makes for easy cleaning and there isn't any worry over scratching the bed.

    We opted for the $650 Tonneau cover. If you need to store tools or other items on a daily basis, this is a great option. Lock the tailgate and your items are secure and out of sight.

    Storing and securing items in the bed is easy. There are two in-bed storage compartments that are great for gloves and small tools. Tie down loops are on each comer of the bed. The truck also comes standard with a rail system that has adjustable tie-downs loops, which makes it easy to haul items securely.

    Spare tire A full-size tire on a steel rim stores under the rear of the vehicle.
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    Safety
    Crash-test results Not all crashworthiness tests have been performed on the Tacoma; so far it has good performances score for the crew cab in the IIHS moderate overlap and side tests.

    Crash-avoidance systems The Tacoma does not have front crash prevention system at this time.

    Toyota only offers blind-spot warning and rear-cross traffic active safety systems on the Tacoma. The systems can be purchased as part of the Premium and Technology package on the TRD Sport and Off Road. The two systems work together using the same sensors, but they do different jobs.

    The blind-spot warning will light up an icon in the appropriate outside mirror to alert you a vehicle is present and may be in your blind spot in the adjacent lane. This is a nice feature to help with changing lanes and merging into traffic.

    Rear-cross traffic works when the vehicle is in reverse. It scans the area to the sides and behind the vehicle. It will send an audible alert and light up the blind spot warning icon if a vehicle is sensed. This is nice to have in a busy parking lot or when backing out of a driveway on a busy street.

    Driving with kids Tether anchors located on the Tacoma back wall, behind the seatback, make it difficult to fully tighten the top tether. One must fold down the seatback to secure the top tether onto the tether anchor, and it can be easily confused with the cargo tie-down. We recommend parents and caregivers consult their vehicle manual and maybe even bring a flashlight.

    Booster-seat age kids may be unable to buckle themselves in the center seat as the buckle tends to sit under or behind the booster and moves into the seat bight as one tries to insert the belt. Three across child-seat installations are not even a remote possibility.

    Head restraints Rear center seat head restraints still fall below the 29.5" standard, even at their highest.
    Warranty
    All cars come with basic warranty coverage, also known as a bumper-to-bumper warranty. This protects consumers against unexpected problems with non-wear items. Powertrain warranty protects against engine and transmission troubles. Rust through, or corrosion warranty, covers rust to non-damaged components. Roadside aid provides on-location assistance in case of a breakdown and may include limited towing services.

    Extended warranties provide peace of mind. Owners of models known to have worse-than-average predicted reliability can mitigate risks with an extended warranty. Generally, we recommend buying a model with better-than-average reliability and skipping this expensive add on. If you do buy an extended warranty, it is key to read the small print to understand what is covered and where you can bring the car for repairs.

    Basic (years/miles)
    3/36
    Powertrain (years/miles)
    5/60
    Rust through (years/miles)
    5/unlimited
    Roadside aid (years/miles)
    2/unlimited
     
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  10. Jun 13, 2016 at 7:52 PM
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    Boy this thread died out!
     
  11. Jun 13, 2016 at 8:23 PM
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    Ya...same over at toyotanation, too. I'm wondering if there was a fix on the assembly line because the sales are still great for the '16 Taco and it seems that there aren't a lot of new complaints.... We keep hearing about a TSB; however, nothing seems to be coming down the pike for us early buyers, at least yet...

    Crossing fingers, because I do like the truck, other than the buzzy vibrations....
     
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    Man I hope there is a fix,it has gotten to where it drives me crazy.
     
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    I hesitate to write this so take it with a grain of salt until other testing pans out,

    I know of a one local toyota that went with a dual exhuast mangaflow american thunder. He says the vibration is gone now.

    I know a few others that have ordered exhaust and are awaiting delivery and installation.

    I think everyone is in a holding pattern to see if this exhaust thing pans out. Of course not all aftermarlet exhaust are made equal so finding the best one that still alleviates the issue is key.

    Not claiming a fix yet but i feel we are close. Patience.
     
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    I've read here those that put on the magnaflow(19291) thought it greatly reduced the
    vibe for them, who knows, could be all in the exhaust. Would be nice if
    that was the fix.... I'd order now!
     
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    Yeah.. Well i dont think the catback is the direct cause. Imo the cause is the upper exhaust with the newly positioned catalytic converters makes tons of noise and vibration. Ie not tuned/weighted correctly. Adding a different catback exhaust, changes the back pressure, mass, and resonance frequency of the whole exhaust and helps with it.

    I think a weight kit on the upper exhaust would fix this if toyota would release a tsb. Who knows how much weight is needed. It could a strategicly placed 20lbs on each side of the exhaust.
     
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    I will install the Borla catback this weekend and drive on the highway for roughly ~100 miles on Sunday. That should be plenty of time to get a feel for the buzzing. So expect an update Sunday night.
     
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    Thanks for looking into this. Looking forward to your update.
     
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    I was diddling around on tundrasolutions.com, found that the 2007+ Tundras had what appears to be the same steering and gas pedal vibration. The 2007+ Tundras with the 6speed autotrans also had the rumble strip vibration decelerating, they had a TSB to replace torque converters. There's about 50 threads about the rumble strip on tundrasolutions.
     
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    Been waiting for somone to post results on this , thanks
     
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    full disclosure...I did not read thru all 87 pages of this thread, so I hope its not too far off topic, but wanted to add that I recently test drove two band new 2016 TRD access cab 2wd with the 3.4 V6 auto......and both were buzzy as hell, one noticeably worse than the other, at cruising speeds (65-70 mph) on the freeway. I even remarked to the sales guy riding with me that you could visually see my hand vibrating as it rested on the steering wheel. He acknowledged that, said he could feel it in the passenger seat. Thought it might be tires he said. Anyway, that, in part was why I went with the SR5 with a 4 cyl. No vibration issues at all, and except for an occasional stumble while idling it runs very smooth. No power to speak of, but smooth.
     
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