Long Travel BS Thread

TC just doesnt offer enough travel numbers imo

 

That's an interesting statement hippiglass care to tell me the difference in travel numbers between tc and camburg 2wd kits?


Neither kit differs by much when it comes to listed travel numbers. Both are designed to get a reasonable amount of travel using stock mounting locations while being robust enough to handle abuse. Both kits can be fined tuned to pull the same amount of travel

 

they are both kinda in the same boat... the TC kit i had on my old 04 taco.. used up all the of suspension on multiple occasions.. didnt have bypasses though so that might of helped.. but i bottomed it out all the time and that was a single cab truck with 10" dual rate 500/600 spring rates... i think camburg is in a lil better shape since they are claiming 15" of travel over TC 13" or the 12" that the 5 lug kit had

 

Sounds like more a shock valving issue than a travel issue...

 

i had the shocks built straight from brett king.. and picked up at his shop.. they def wernt just stock off the shelf built.. me and my buddies family used to go camping in glamis with brett and talked a lot.. but its always possible something was off..

 

Most trucks don't go from the shop to the race track. They're fine tuned in the desert where you can make adjustments on the fly.

 

true.. cant argue with that.. still think they should make a kit with bigger travel numbers.. instead of making the same kit but with a built in uniball and call it their race kit.. if they made a kit like they have for the 95' with the 5" extended for the 2nd gens... i think that would be a win

 

Can't argue with that, I'd welcome wider kits any day of the week for the increased travel!

 

actually not entirely untrue, but has more to do with shock selection than the kit but there is a difference. We did some comparison testing between TC with Icon and Fox and Camburg with Icon and Fox on the two 2014 Tundras we built side by side. CV's were set to 27.7* at Droop. These were both running 37s with the CMC done and minimal inner fenderwell trimming. With some additional inner fender trimming the numbers would be a little higher in gained uptravel like our TRD Pro. Results are listed below.

Total Chaos
Using Icon specific coil overs
Metal to metal- 14 3/8"
Usable - 12 7/8"

Using Fox specific coil overs
Metal to metal -12 7/16"
Usable - 11 1/8"

http://store.sdhqoffroad.com/2007tundra2wdand4wdlongtravel.aspx

Camburg
Using Icon specific coilovers
Metal to metal 15 1/4"
Usable 14 1/2"

Using Fox specific coil overs
Metal to metal 12 1/2"
Usable 11 3/4"

http://store.sdhqoffroad.com/0714TundraLongTravelSystem.aspx

Camburg and Icon


TC and Fox

 

lol

 

So was the gained travel at bump? Did both kits have enough bump travel to push the wheels into the metal inner fender? If the cv's are set to the same angle I see droop being very close unless unless one kit ran a diff drop like the dirt King. Not super familiar with the tundra kit, but I know everything is similar to the Tacoma.

I also know the camburg kit uses bigger uniballs, but on the Tacoma kits I've worked on the cv's were more of a limiting factor than the uniballs.

What's the difference in each kits speced shock? Are they both standard 8" shocks or 8" cap over? Not too familiar with icon. All the kits I've messed with have been King and fox. I'm glad this is a topic we're covering. I've been meaning to contact you ever since I saw you were pulling 15" with your burg kit. I've got a handful of small tweaks I'm making to my race kit install to try and maximize usable travel numbers and was wondering if they were similar to what you were doing.

Were the stock tie rods a limiting factor (this why you went heim)? Did you drop your diff a little to gain droop before your cv's bind, did you trim your inner metal fender wells to allow more bump?

 

I just realized you answered some of my questions already in your last post, but I don't as too lazy to edit everything out. If you feel you've already covered something feel free to disregard. I've been looking forward to messing with my race kit during install and it's nice to talk to someone who gets the time to mess with these kits and various parts full time. I'm limited to experience with what customers bring me on the side of my normal job and what I buy for my personal truck. Your input is always appreciated. Especially knowing these are things you've actually seen and aren't just a third hand story you heard from someone you paid to install your kit

 

Curious about the dif drop @tubbsisland

 

Nvm I'm late to the party

 

Long traveler's dream highway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCzfTiIp97Y

 

That fag Wilkey from Desert Alliance would have been all about that.

 

Heres my truck last weekend on a fun little section , I lost the footage to the really fast section.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hT3-jbelHI

 

That was 2 Toyota trucks with Camburg.

Dan Vance runs TC. Nicole's single cab is TC built. Casey Benito. Aaron Bruno. And whatever the drivers names are in the Dakar. Just to name a few.

 

I too want to know how it's pulling 15", is it because the Icon shocks? I'm on SAWs and I have about 13" of travel, I can maybe loosen the straps to get closer to 14" but that put's me marginally close to CV bind. Also I am running 33's and it runs plenty at full bump. I have some 35" Toyo for my truck but haven't put them on since I need to do the CMC among other things. Does the offset on the wheels help gain travel numbers by moving closer/further away from the inner fenders?

 

When you guys are measuring your travel, are you measuring from the base of the balls, or the butt hole?