Cheap Bumpers on eBay!!

im def throwing this in my sig GOT EM

 

Says the guy with a lifted 4cyl Pre-Runner.....

 

We seem to be butting heads lately. Regardless, will keep this objective.



Lets dive right into the economics, your claim people (making it sound like everyone, but we won't make that assumption) are willing to pay more money for a better quality product. I refer you to any mass franchised store in the United States. Quality product doesn't make the shelves as often as their Chinese counterparts do. Examples? Food, medicine, electronics. But we're talking Toyota, specifically modifying your Toyota. People (even aware, educated buyers) want to modify their trucks. How many of them decide to go with spacer lifts? Lets look at ALL the products out there better than a Rancho (or whoever) puck and block. Yet, they're still in business. People still buy them in the masses. People still vouch for them.

As for me, personally, i'm a self sufficient dual major college student. Shit, even though i'm heavily involved with scholarships, costs a lot. However, I enjoy modifying my truck. How do I do this? I cut corners. I buy used. I buy cheap. With the exception of my tires, skids, rock sliders and suspension (rock sliders are ironically All Pro, which I love) all of my truck parts are small companies or imported form China. You're damn right people are going to purchase cheaper products. There have been two more purchases since this thread was created today, correct? And how many are subbed? How many are viewing?

But you bring up quality. Alrighty. I will use another personal example. I have Amazon lights all over my truck. I have been counting how many times they've been underwater, since I often get the argument they're cheap quality, and being a trail guide at HIdden Falls on 31" tires, it happens all the time. My pods have been underwater nine times, and my 20" led bar three. My 20" led bar did have to be resealed once. Oh well.

My buddy and "electrical guy", has the middle range between Amazon lights and Rigids (I will admit, Rigids (for x15 the price) are a fantastic product and blow both of ours combine out of the water) was sure his lights were not only better quality, but brighter. His 20" compared to my 20". His 4 led pods compared to mine. We took his off to position them the same as mine. Not exactly, since we held them up infront of my existing lights, but we wanted an accurate test. His total setup was 13 lumens brighter than mine (oh yeah, we measured baby) and the light distance was unnoticeable.

Yeah, ok, this is one circumstance for a different product. However, as stated before, the rear all pro and this bumper seem to have the exact same non-flush fitment. Also, you mentioned being stranded in the middle of no where? Its a plate bumper. Its steel between you and whatever you're smashing into. The powdercoating could be bad, ok, i'll give you that one. And be sure to check the welds, as those could be bad as well. However, this brings me to the last argument you have. Poserville.

First off, does it really concern you what people do with their trucks? But lets dive into that. I have Amazon lights, home made halos, a second hand non name brand bumper, cheap ass stickers, cheap paint jobs everywhere. Am I a poser? I off road. I use my truck for what I enjoy. If they enjoy their truck, lol, who gives a shit.

Oh yeah, and customer service. A lot of large brands have absolutely awful customer service. There are complaint threads for all of 'em: All Pro, Relentless Fab, 4xInnovations. I still rep all of their products. Doesn't mean they're bad companies by any means. There are ones a lot worse with a lot worse customer service people still buy from. 4WheelParts, anyone? But everyone who has purchased has talked to them and has told tails of excellent customer service. I am playing Devil's Advocate here, especially since I posted earlier about how they could very well be con artists. However, this is the information we have so far.

However, to really debate, we need two things to happen. We need one of these bumpers to be delivered, and we need to hear what All Pro has to say.

As for the butthurt post above... That was freakin' funny.

 

Allpro is currently at the Rubicon trial hence why there hasn't been a response from them specifically

 

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How do you still not have a bumper yet moose! (#JustJoinedThatClub )

 

$$$$$$ and I'm still tryin to keep the truck "skinny"

#cuzboosted

but... yes.. I do want bumpers.. have had a couple custom one off ideas as well.. just gotta nail down a plan..

 

Poserville? If saving a ton of money on a product that's already powdercoated, already has a hoop, is the same metal thickness, has the same features, and is shipped for free makes me a poser then stamp my ticket buddy.

 

Well seeing as OP has a tracking #, a weight, and ETA we're one step closer. Doesn't get it? Simple, get his money back.

 

My truck isn't for everybody, but everybody doesn't own it. Custom ordered and purpose built for what I need it for, not so I can go online and pretend my V6 powered midsize truck is super fast and sounds badass with its new exhaust.

I have a mild lift and all terrains for the same reason everybody else bitches about Tacoma's - the stock suspension is garbage, and highway tread tires don't do well when off the highway.

Nothing poser about my truck, except my 4x4 mud flaps, maybe. But that's a stretch.

 

.....Wait for it

 

I agree hands down, product needs to come in with an issue to see how customer service truly is. But the fact that I called and talked with him for 15 minutes about the product and if there are any issues what the return policy is and how it will be handled. He deeply explained to me that if anything is wrong cosmetically or with the manufacturing, call us and it will be solved. They will pay for the return shipping, and refund 100%, or give a new product. He also said if it comes in and I flat out "don't like the product or how it looks", then call, explain the situation (yeah, he said you might have to fight a little more for this) but a refund will be granted on the customers return shipping dime.
From that, it seems awesome. Yeah, no one has had experience yet, but so far it looks good.
Plus this... I called and asked if they would provide me a military discount. He put me on hold and came back on with a price cheaper than advertised (I'm not going to say out respect for them). Still free shipping. I asked if I could pay them via PayPal and he said yes. I then asked if I should send it as a gift so neither of us has to deal with th PayPal fee. He immediately stopped me and said "no, send via goods and services because that's how ou are protected if anything happens. Not that it will. Don't worry about the fee, we will give you the bumper for said price, plus we will eat the PayPal fee".
So far I'm happy with th service. Only time will tell of the product. We shall see soon enough.

 

I tried to find the pic of a wave made of thumbs ups but couldn't

 

If by garbage you mean it can't carry weight, your right. But then airbags would've been cheaper, and less poserish.

 

I don't really get the poser comment. I mean to each there own and so many on here have a different purpose for there truck. Some like things just for looks, some for offroad, some for power, etc. The reasons go on and on. This is not a 4x4 only site. And if that's the case unless your name is on the roster for king of the hammers we are all posers....I would agree though having 4x4 flaps on a 2x4 rig is pretty poser.

 

Cheaper, sure - but still leaving the weak part of the suspension and not fixing it.

More performance and capability and it was only 4x more expensive.

 

It's not us! It's not the first time we've been copied. Almost seems like the nature of the business anymore, unfortunately.

Tracy
tracy@allprooffroad.com