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Precious Metals New Thread 2.0

Discussion in 'Stocks & Investments' started by shr133, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. May 25, 2016 at 11:55 PM
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    http://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-cashless-society-negative-interest-rates-2015-10
    People are hiding cash in their microwaves as Sweden gets closer to being the first cashless society with negative interest rates

    Remember, Sweden is the place where, if you use too much cash, banks call the police because they think you might be a terrorist or a criminal.

    If banks charge customers negative interest rates in a cashless society, those customers are not able to withdraw their money as cash to shield it under their putative mattresses. Consumers' only choice in such a scenario is to spend it or let the bank take it. (The theory is that by forcing people to spend cash rather than save it, you can spur economic growth.)

    So Sweden may become the first country whose citizens may have to accept negative interest rates (probably in the form of higher bank charges or fees) or be forced to spend their money to "save" it from those rates.
     
  2. Jun 4, 2016 at 12:25 AM
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  3. Jun 5, 2016 at 10:22 PM
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    Not a lot new news just a lot of the same info.....

    More billionaires are turning against the market like Bill Gross the " Bond King".....
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-02/bill-gross-explains-why-he-now-shorting-credit...

    I think PMs will start going up again, most of the PMs stocks made up all lost ground in 1 day....
    So PMs should start going again..........

    Sounds like bond curve is starting to flatten out so the crash could be coming in the next 12 months....
    The bond curve flattened out in the last 2 crashes.....



     
  4. Jun 6, 2016 at 5:49 PM
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    Still waiting around for this market crash... o_O
     
  5. Jun 6, 2016 at 5:59 PM
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    Wow this Greg guy is dead on, the banks control everything and even found a way to move the price of oil! What power! I don't know why I'm not following him, I mean who cares that all his predictions for stock market crashes over the last 2 years haven't come to fruition, it's bound to happen. I mean I'm going on record right here in the forum, there will be a destructive hurricane sometime in the future, get ready. It's coming, mark my words!
     
  6. Jun 7, 2016 at 12:47 PM
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    Good vid.... More calm than Greg........ Another very smart guy.......

    The economy is still in trouble...
    Don't over react...
    Bet smart....
    The world won't end...
    Negative rates don't effect consumers, yet...
    Things are very similar to the 60s up to the 70s...
    The fed won't let the market drop too far.....

     
  7. Jun 15, 2016 at 11:56 AM
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    Surprise, surprise. Fed doesn't raise rates, AGAIN, against their original projection.
     
  8. Jun 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM
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    Yeah, they can't raise rates, we all know this...

    They never really raised rates in December, the net change was very minimal not the .25 point they claimed...

    Not much new news out there...

    More billionaires going short and getting out of the market...

    More talk of this fall being the big start....

    The schemata ends in fall so It would be weird if something didn't happen by fall.... But we'll see....

    We need more good news like growing our economy and expanding markets like this....
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2016/06/15/iran-boeing-deal/85905178/

    We need to make more partners not enemies........
     
  9. Jun 15, 2016 at 1:00 PM
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    Surprise surprise the market hasn't fallen or "crashed" either as some of these tin foil hat commentators have been promising for over a year!
     
  10. Jun 15, 2016 at 1:03 PM
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    Maybe we need more videos of the crashing dollar, replacement of the USD as the global currency? Or maybe how silver and gold will surge to new heights instead of losing money for the last year and a half? We can only hope, until then PMs will be relegated to taking a backseat to 0% money market accounts.
     
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    The market isn't going to 'crash', it is going to 'correct' to fair market value.

    This hasn't happened yet because manipulation. All real economic data points to negative circumstances, however as long as companies buy back their own stock and the Fed buy's back Corp bonds, the market will continue to be propped up. Along with it being an election year, the Fed doesn't want to rock the boat.
     
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    Well I'm not saying you said it,
    That's great to hear, sadly the videos posted by Stevie sing a different tune.
     
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    We should know by " insert future date here "
     
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    Hey any fool can see we are in trouble, so it's not hard to see, just when it will happen is the hard part....

    If they are to meet their time line, something need to happen by fall....

    The last crash was right before the election.......

    Are they going to follow their time line or keep it going???

    I'm starting to think that if most of the market is owned by fed money, I don't know if they are allowed to take the money out or short the market...
    So it comes down to how much is owed buy fed money...

    The same reason Apple can't go higher, there is only so much money....
    The same with the market, all the money is in so it can't go higher with out massive printing...

    So it can only stay flat until something happens....

    It is much more likely the market drops than goes up from here...
    They will make a lot more money if the market corrects than stays flat or goes up a little....
     
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    Wow BREXIT is no longer a conspiracy theory but conspiracy fact.......
    I guess I can put away 1 of my tin foil hats now.....

    I thought they would put it off, but things are starting to happen this year...........

    Watch the markets, good excuse for the start of the crash, we'll see..........
     
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    Exactly, I thought the same Steve... I thought it wasn't going to happen.. wow.

    So I see interest rates on home loans are going to drop. Precious metals should continue to push higher....

    What repercussions will we see from this? Another recession here? Silver is still a great buy here at $17+/oz
     
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    I don't know what will happen but this is the beginning of the end for the EU...

    SO if the EU falls apart that should help the US if we get our spending under control...

    But I would think PMs will start taking off again....

    And if could be trouble for some big banks....

    I will keep buying silver up to 30 so at 17 its a steal....

    My normal future investing price is 125-250 an oz in todays dollars, my conspiracy price is much higher....

    It's a steal up to 30 and ok up to 50... with physical you need to make 3-4 times your money to make the hassle worth it....
     
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    Good info Steve. Thanks for the reply back...

    Ya, I never thought this was coming. I knew the markets were due for a correction but in terms of how, I wouldn't have guessed that it was because Britex.

    So what's your plan at this point in time?

    My dad's into treasuries now, and going to be looking at banking stocks as the take a hit, and restructuring his home loan as we could see all time lows for fixed 30 year loan...
     
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    LOL at this whole thread!!! Y'all fellows are such economic geniuses not sure how you have time to post on a pickup truck forum.
     
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