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Am I wrong in wanting a 17" wheel?

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by Greenbean, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Jun 28, 2016 at 6:11 PM
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    Greenbean

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    So I have been really researching 17" wheels after I wear down my stock 16" steelies and rubber.

    Main reason is you can get a BF Goodrich AT KO2 265/70/R17 in a 6 ply "C" load.
    So I have been finding great deals on some 17" 4Runner Trail Team wheels.

    I am thinking about going for it, however am just wondering if my little 2.7 is not going to like it but I mean the 16" with a 10 ply 265 is going to be about the same right?

    Looking at this wheel on my truck...
    They looked fantastic on the silver 2010 model 4Runners. I think the black fenders and silver complimented each other well. I dig the classic 8-hole design also.


    Thanks for looking and reading.
    Appreciate you guys... And my 2.7L :militarypress:
     
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  2. Jun 28, 2016 at 6:14 PM
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    Balockay

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    Just look at the build thread
    A 265/70/17 and 265/75/16 are going to be the same on your truck as far as power loss, mileage, etc. Wheel size has nothing to do with it. I would definitely go with the 17s though since you can get the tires in a C rating. E is just too much for anything under a full size truck in my opinion. I have E rated tires on my Tacoma and the ride is terrible. Have Cs on my 2016 4Runner and it rides great. More firm than factory but not knocking teeth out of my head. Like a truck should be.
     
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  3. Jun 28, 2016 at 6:20 PM
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    Nothing wrong with a 17 inch wheel if that's what you want. I went from the steel 16s to a set of FJ take off 17s. I liked my tires size choices a bit better on the 16s, but there really is no difference in performance. Get what ever you want.
     
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  4. Jun 28, 2016 at 6:23 PM
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    Not sure I agree across the board.

    17" wheels are 5-8 lbs heavier compared to the same or similar wheel in a 16.

    Tire weight increases also, or at least is minimally different - haven't actually checked.

    Overall size is the same, sure, but weight? I don't think that's the case there.
     
  5. Jun 28, 2016 at 6:52 PM
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    Per tread depots site the
    265 in 16" 10-ply is 53.5 lbs.
    265 in 17" 6-ply is 46.5 lbs.

    Wheels might be 1-3 lbs difference,

    I see performance is going to drop no matter what, I just want a BFG AT KO2, but refuse to go 10-ply.
     
  6. Jun 28, 2016 at 6:55 PM
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    1-3 lbs?

    What wheels are those?

    My Level 8 MK6 are 8 lbs heavier per wheel from a 16 to a 17. OEM wheels are the same weight from alloy 16s to alloy 17s.
     
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    Didn't weigh them, but my steel 16s felt heavier than my aluminum 17s. Since I was going to quite a bit bigger tire than the stock 245s I wasn't worried about the weight of the wheel.
     
  8. Jun 28, 2016 at 7:01 PM
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    I was guessing, it's hard to try and find exact factory weights,
    I have 16" steel and want the 17" 4Runner rims shown,
    I am hoping the 17" are lighter, I think they are.

    Gues too is that I can keep the 16" packages together and just hang onto them in case I trade or something. If we can start a family I'll be looking for a DC which means a V6.
     
  9. Jun 28, 2016 at 7:02 PM
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    Likely a similar weight. The 16 steelies on Tacoma's are the same weight as the alloy 17s, so figure they're in the same ballpark at least.
     
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  10. Jun 28, 2016 at 7:05 PM
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    10-4, I'll grab the digital scale as I am really curious.

    Thanks...
     
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    Not enough...
    I have E-rated 285/75r16 on my OEM TRD Wheels and the ride is great. I went from BFG KO to KO2 and I think the ride is actually softer now
     
  12. Jun 28, 2016 at 7:54 PM
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    Just look at the build thread
    How do you figure that tire weight isn't different? There's less rubber... They have to be lighter. Rubber's not light. And I would be surprised if the 4Runner alloy wheels were any heavier than his stock steelies.
     
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    I'm not sure you understand tire construction.
     
  14. Jun 28, 2016 at 8:00 PM
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    Just look at the build thread
    I'm not saying I do. But if theres less of something it should weigh less. Doesn't mean it does. But it should. They should also be cheaper but we all know that bigger wheels means more expensive tires.
     
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    Copy that,

    I'm pretty much decided on the C load BFGs in 265/70/R17
     
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    What I meant was if the sidewalls were constructed the same, but one was 5" tall and the other 2.5", then the 2.5" would be way too soft.

    Lower profile tires have different sidewall construction because they need to be stronger since they're working harder than a comparably sized tire with a taller sidewall, they take the same amount of abuse but have less air and less rubber to help cushion the impact to the tires.

    So they're not the same tire and just different sizes. One can have twice as much material (weight) in the sidewall as the other. The inch of rubber missing is the lightest weight part of the sidewall.

    Wheels are heavier also, generally. I'm not going to compare a steel 16 to an aluminum 17, because they're apples to oranges. They might be the same, or one less, or one more.

    But a Brand X Wheel in 16x7 and the same Brand X Wheel in 17x8, with the same design and the same materials will have a several pound difference, if not 6-8 lbs.

    Not sure what you're debating about.
     
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    T4RFTMFW

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    Konig Countersteers are a super lightweight wheel if you're looking to cut wheel weight to compensate for a heavier tire.

    My 265/75/16s really cut my performance and mileage from the stock 245s, and I have had alloys since day one. I almost went to a 17 so I could get a P285 tire but the extra weight was too much to risk. Any more of a hit to my drivability or mileage and it would suck.
     
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    Just look at the build thread
    I'm not debating anything.
     
  20. Jun 28, 2016 at 8:24 PM
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    Okay.

    Well.. I love you.
     
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