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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by Hotdog, Jul 28, 2008.

  1. Jul 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM
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  4. Jul 2, 2016 at 7:36 AM
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    Thinking about a 22" square by 30-36" tall.
     
  5. Jul 2, 2016 at 11:17 AM
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    Ok. So I am no electrical wizard by any means, but I have done many ceiling fan/light fixture installs in our homes.

    And today I got around to installing the boys ceiling fans. 1st one went just fine. No issues. 2nd one I finish everything, restore power to his room with switch in down/off position. I get back up to his room after flipping breaker on and see his fan spinning? How is that possible? Go back down to basement and the breaker is tripped. For fun I flip it back on and it instapops off again.

    I go up and start to isolate by removing just the lights. Restore breaker and come up stairs to find switch in off position and blades spinning. At this point I figure I must have been spacing out and not tied the blue wire to the other hot wires. Well, I disassemble the whole fan (annoying) and my wiring is correct...

    Mind you I didn't pay special attention to the old fixtures wiring I just undid it all fast. Is it possible they had some weird wiring I should have noted?

    Any help is appreciated.

    20160702_130846.jpg
     
  6. Jul 2, 2016 at 2:54 PM
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    Why does it look like there are two black wires coming from the house wiring (Romex) on the top? Am I seeing that wrong? Is there more than one switch in the room? If so, one switch is meant to turn on the light and one switch is meant to turn on the fan, so they need to be hooked up separately.

    EDIT: Now that I look closer I think I see two neutral wires as well.
     
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  7. Jul 2, 2016 at 3:29 PM
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    Do you own a multimeter or one of the simple detectors?
     
  8. Jul 2, 2016 at 6:56 PM
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    I wonder if the line side hits the box in the ceiling first and then down to the switch. Do you have two switches at the wall or just one? What color wires at the switches? You don't usually see all the hots tied together unless there is just one switch and you use the pull chain at the fan/light.
     
  9. Jul 3, 2016 at 6:25 AM
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  10. Jul 3, 2016 at 6:39 AM
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    I switch In the room. It's tied to white black of cable that also has a red (which I don't recall seeing in ceiling, gonna look after breakfast). Now I also see a 2nd cable in switch box, just black white ground not tied to anything? Weird stuff.
     
  11. Jul 3, 2016 at 6:41 AM
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    The red may be a switched leg for a wall outlet?
     
  12. Jul 3, 2016 at 6:42 AM
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    Forgot to attached above...

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  13. Jul 3, 2016 at 6:43 AM
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    You need to find out where these go and check for power....

    Is that red tied to anything?
     
  14. Jul 3, 2016 at 6:43 AM
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    Pic doesn't show it too well, but red is just cut and hanging in switch box/connected to nothing.
     
  15. Jul 3, 2016 at 6:47 AM
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    Do you have any wall outlets in the bedroom that don't work?
     
  16. Jul 3, 2016 at 6:50 AM
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    Zero volts anywhere in switchbox. I get my 120vac on 1 of the 2 wires in ceiling box, so my guess is the other one up there w/no volts comes to the switch?
     
  17. Jul 3, 2016 at 6:51 AM
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    They all work.
     
  18. Jul 3, 2016 at 7:09 AM
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    Do you know what pair of wires are the line voltage?

    I am thinking that the wires incoming on the bottom are line voltage?
     
  19. Jul 3, 2016 at 7:19 AM
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    They may be switching the neutral side. Try disconnecting one neutral wire at a time (at the fan)
     
  20. Jul 3, 2016 at 7:22 AM
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    That would need to be in the WTF thread.......
     

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