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The JBL upgrade they didn't want you to have

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by JasonT87, May 21, 2016.

  1. Jul 6, 2016 at 6:35 PM
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    Damn that shit is bad ass. I should have went with that instead of the 2 10s. I can't wait to see it installed in your truck!!
     
  2. Jul 6, 2016 at 9:03 PM
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    I have some friends asking me why I didn't go with 2 10's... Lol maybe we'll have to do a trade sometime in the future?
     
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    IMHO 2-10" will give you better base response than 1-12" if you are going with a good quality sub. The bass will be tighter and the response will be faster because of the tighter throw in a 10".
     
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    I'd be down.
     
  5. Jul 6, 2016 at 9:11 PM
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    I listen to mostly rap and hip hop so the lower frequency would be nice for me with the larger woofer. I think I'm going to try to stuff a bit more pollifill in my boxes to make them think they are in a larger box and see if that helps
     
  6. Jul 6, 2016 at 10:21 PM
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    Smaller box you mean?
     
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    If you need a schematic for the JBL system on your 3rd gen. @JasonT87 I'll see if I could find you some tomorrow while I'm at work. Hopefully they have information released on them by now. I'll get you everything you need even the wiring for the backup cam. They overcomplicated this system, that is for sure.

    Based on the coloring of the wires and even the stock sub/ amp box it looks very similar to what the late 2nd gens were.
     
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  8. Jul 6, 2016 at 11:28 PM
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    Dude thank you! I just need the speaker wiring at the JBL amp because I'm gonna be doing the wiring for my amp/LOC when the enclosure comes in. That would be super helpful!
     
  9. Jul 7, 2016 at 12:48 AM
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    Not sure if till current, Sub'd to thread for solution. ...

    2008-2010 Toyota Tacoma with JBL Wiring Information

    Published 03/30/2011 08:42 AM | Updated 04/21/2015 10:28 AM
    2008-2010 Toyota Tacoma with JBL Wiring Information


    The information contained in this article, is presented as a convenience and is without warranties or guarantees of any type. Due to the constantly changing nature of this type of information and running changes in vehicle production this information may not be timely and/or accurate . Any person or entity using this information does so at his or her own risk. If you find this information is different from your vehicle, do not continue with your installation.







    2008-10 Toyota Tacoma
    JBL Sound System

    [​IMG]
    FUNCTION PIN WIRE COLOR
    Accessory 12 Volt
    11 GY
    Constant 12 Volt 1 BU/YW
    Chassis Ground 20 BN
    Power Antenna
    Remote SEE NOTE*
    Illumination 12 WT/BK
    Dimmer 2 GN
    FUSE VALUE FUSE LABEL FUSEBOX LOCATION
    7.5 AMP "ACC" DRIVER'S SIDE DASH PANEL
    10 AMP "RADIO NO.1" DRIVER'S SIDE UNDER HOOD
    *The JBL amplifier is triggered through the data lines. The factory radio sends only two channels of audio to the JBL amplifier. In order to retain the JBL amplifier, an interface must be used (see Receivers tab).

    The steering wheel control leads are VT/WT, YW/BK and WT/RD. All three wires are located a second 20-pin plug at the radio location.

    Left Channel + 9 RD
    Left Channel - 19 GN
    Right Channel + 8 BK
    Right Channel - 18 WT
    Audio Signal Ground 10 BARE
    Data Line 5 OG*
    Data Line 15 RD/WT*
    Mute 7 VT
    Illumination Ground 6 WT/RD


    JBL Amplifier Wiring
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
    FUNCTION PIN WIRE COLOR
    Mute
    21 VT
    Left - Input 22 GN
    Left + Input 23 RD
    Right - Input 24 WT
    Right + Input 25 BK
    Audio Signal Shield 26 BARE
    Data Line 27 RD/WT
    Data Line 28 OG
    Accessory 12 Volt 32 GY
    The subwoofer is a dual voice coil model and is located behind the passenger's side rear trim panel. The JBL amplifier is located by the woofer enclosure. The amp is protected by a 30 AMP fuse labeled "RADIO NO.2" that is located in the fusebox under the hood.
    FUNCTION PIN WIRE COLOR
    Constant 12 Volt
    1 WT/BU
    Subwoofer Coil 1 + 2 BN
    Subwoofer Coil 2 + 3 BU/BK
    Left Rear Spkr + 4 BK
    Right Rear Spkr + 5 RD
    Left Front Spkrs + 6 PK*
    Right Front Spkrs + 7 L.GN*
    Constant 12 Volt 10 WT/BU
    Subwoofer Coil 1 - 11 GN/WT
    Subwoofer Coil 2 - 12 BU/RD
    Left Rear Spkr - 13 YW
    Right Rear Spkr - 14 WT
    Chassis Ground 15 BN
    Chassis Ground 16 BN
    Left Front Spkrs - 17 VT*
    Right Front Spkrs - 18 BU*
    *The front door tweeters are wired in parallel with front door woofers.


    Video and Navigation Wires
    FUNCTION
    LOCATION COLOR
    Vehicle Speed Sensor
    Pin #5 of 13-pin black plug at driver's side dash fuse box VT/WT
    Reverse Light ( + ) Pin#1 of 12-pin gray plug in driver's kick panel RD/WT
    Parking Brake ( - ) Pin #5 of 18-pin plug at driver's side dash fuse box GN/YW
    Brake Light ( + ) Pin#2 of 11-pin plug at driver's side dash fuse box BU
     
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    No the Polly makes the sub think it is in a larger air space.
     
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    Bad news @JasonT87 . I checked Alldata earlier this morning for a schematic on JBL systems and found absolutely nothing. That information is not available yet. At least schematics. Can you possibly take a closer picture of the 3 amplifier plugs so I can take a look at the colors of all the wires for the plugs?
     
  12. Jul 7, 2016 at 10:19 AM
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    Ive always used PolyFill and i swear it makes a big difference.

    Borrowed below from the net.

    When Polyfill is added to your enclosure, the airspring within the box begins an isothermal process. When the air passes through the Polyfill it is scattered and dissipated by the fibers, causing the air to be less dense. The speaker then interacts with the enclosure as if it is larger than it really is, changing the sound.

    Often times you’ll either build or buy an enclosure for your equipment and it will be just a tad too small. In these cases you can easily add some Polyfill to the box to increase the effectiveness of yoursubwoofer. As long as you are within the manufacturers suggested box volume specs, a larger enclosure is more efficient than a smaller one no matter what size the driver is. Having a large enclosure gives you more options; if your subwoofer enclosure is too small, there isn’t much you can do except build or buy a new one.

    On a more negative note, too much Polyfill can prevent your speakers or sub woofers from producing audio at their full potential. Obviously overstuffing the enclosure will restrict the linear movement of the sub and make the quality of the audio sound extremely muffled. Too much also decreases the effective dampening of the speaker which would allow it to bottom out. Polyfill is also not appropriate for every application – if your enclosure is already bigger than the manufacturer suggests, polyfill isn’t needed and could actually negatively impact the sound.
     
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    Great thread bro! I currently have the stock entune unit, alpine type R speakers and an 8 " kicker hideaway sub underneath my front seat. I might just get the two 10s and an amp for the added bass!
     
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    This is all I have as of right now

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    You can't get a closer shot of each plug possibly? Or did you put all the panels back in. A lot of those colors look similar except the subwoofer wires which appear to be pink and gray or blue now which used to be red wires with yellows IIRC.
     
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    Received this today, finally! Gonna get it Line-X'd first before install. Great quality from Mr Marv!

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    That's the only shot I have right now and it was taken a few months ago when I pulled the seats out.
     
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    Nice man!! That is going to sound so good
     
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    Will this take up the whole back seat of the 2016? And where will the amp be placed?
     
  20. Jul 9, 2016 at 3:48 PM
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    Yes, there's 2 halves to the enclosure. This is the driver side half. The passenger side half is an 'amp rack' that will hold the 2 amps and LOC

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