Fuel filter built into fuel pump

Me thinks there is an extra 0 in this. Typo, correct?

Wanna give a parts list of what was included in that robbery? 'Cause a whole new motor wouldn't be that much.

 

I write a lot of estimates on fuel contamination claims. Hope you called your insurance and they took care of it. Sand doesn't stick the the fuel filler neck the way other things that I have seen poured in there will like sugar. 14k is about right for a full fuel system.

 

Parts list would include nearly every component from injectors on back, tank can be flushed.

edit: and you are correct, replacing an engine (with a used one) is not that much. A new eng from the factory is going to be over 10k likely, and that is not including labor.

 

you need to move out of the puckerbrush and into civilization


ALL underground gas tanks within 500 miles of where I am have all been ripped up
and replaced with super clean super leak proof super contamination proof tanks,
and the pumps are filtered as well. By EPA mandate. there are no shit gas stations anymore

 

Nope, the 3rd gen is a HIGH pressure fuel system. They replaced everything from the tank to the fuel rail and injectors. Literally the entire system

 

it isnt a fuel filter as much as a strainer. but then again its a plastic tank far less likely to send junk through the fuel system. this only mystifies people who dont work on cars as most newer vehicles are setup like this. ready for the real shocker? you probably cant replace just the pump either. its an assembly with the sender strainer, float etc. best fix is shoving a rag in the tank and burning your truck

 

NOPE- there's a high pressure pump outside the tank

 

The concept of a filter in the tank is nothing new....hell my '01 camry had it in the tank....as far as longevity, if my 01 had it, Im sure my gf's 04 camry was the same. It was at 240k miles when she totaled it a couple weeks ago...never had a problem with fuel.

 

Many manufacturers have been using this design for 15 years. Nothing new.

 

WHERE do you see any 400psi fuel line pressures? Not in a Tacoma. 10% of that is more normal.

You were robbed on that repair. You could replace the pump, the lines (not necessary), the pressure regulator, and the injectors for way less than 10% of that.

 

The low pressure and port injection side runs 50-60psi. The low pressure feeds a high pressure pump mounted on the engine and it runs about 1000-5000psi to feed the direct injectors.

 

Last Toyota I traded had almost 200k miles and was 13yrs old. No issues with the fuel system, pump or engine performance. Used only regular top tier fuel band. A friend of mine bought a Ford escape same year about the same mileage, has had two fuel pumps, left stranded one time and uses the cheapest independent refiner gas. Each time the pump was around $1k to replace.

 

I've found that using name brand gas at a high volume station is the key to getting quality gas.

Not going to the mom and pop 1 pump station 10 miles out of town that sells 100 gallons of fuel a week.

 

The thing I know about top tier fuel is that the refiner changes the fuel filters at the pump on a regular basis and charges it to the franchisee.
A friend of mine owned a top tier brand station and switched to an independent refiner because he could change it when he deemed it needed it, saving himself a lot of $$ overtime.
He did complain to me the top tier contract changed it for him by contract and charged him good money for something he could do himself a lot cheaper.
Ever since then I use only top tier. This is many years ago and things may have changed, but I'll never worry.

Hope that helps
Cheers!

 

Makes sense

 

I'm adamant about replacing my air filters though. Way before it's scheduled. It's cheap to DIY so I do it every year, inside cab too.

I believe that has helped me stay trouble free

Cheers!

 

Sounds about right. Friend of mine owned a 76 station and then changed over to Chevron. He was forced to shut down for 2 days because his fuel tank lines didn't have a green seal on the top and he wasn't allowed to continue pumping until he had the updated seal put on even though the "old" seals were still good and had been replaced just recently.

 

You clearly don't know much about the 3rd gen....


Edit: I see you said LINE pressures. I stand corrected.

However, plumbing a filter into the hard lines isn't going to be plug and play

 

Correct. DFI is usually done by a pump that is local. Nobody would want to deal with a line from the tank to the engine bay that had 4000 psi. Wreck and instant inferno. Not to mention trying to handle that pressure at every connection between the front and back of the truck. Every fuel pump I have seen (in tank) uses rubber hose connections to attach to the tank outlet connector to try and insulate the vibration the pump produces from the fuel tank itself which would act sort of like a loud speaker if it were to vibrate.

In any case, with a 10:1 compression ratio, you will see pressures north of 200 psi after factoring in the heat produced by compressing the air. It definitely takes something in the 400 psi or higher range to actually inject and atomize fuel into that environment.

As far as adding an inline fuel filter goes, it is not very difficult. Remove 6" of hard line somewhere that is convenient and somewhat protected from road object damage. Traditional clamps and rubber fuel line will then work just fine. Very similar to what some manufacturers require when you replace an automatic transmission. An inline transmission filter to prevent trash from failed transmission making it back into the new one.

 

Welcome to 11 years ago. My 2005 has the same setup