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New Engine / Tranny combo sucks

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by kanelakos, Jul 30, 2016.

  1. Aug 1, 2016 at 3:02 AM
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    ...This was not my my post, it came from the towing section...I know a little about towing and know towing a low profile TT is quite different than one that is higher and producing more drag...If it works for you great....what is the issue with the guy posting about flat land towing and not being able to keep up 60 mph and getting 7.5-to 10 mpg...In your opinion it isnt the truck...hmmmm... I give up what is it?
     
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  2. Aug 1, 2016 at 3:06 AM
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    Friend with ecoboost cant tow what your Tacoma can?.....LMAO....the 3.5 eco out tows the Tundra...kinda thinking the Tacoma is no match...LOL
     
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  3. Aug 1, 2016 at 4:40 AM
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    But dang is it ugly. The 5000 lb tow limit is an indication of the build. Steel is higher grade on Taco and the Ridgeline is a Soccer mom unibody
    And you drive a Chrysler ? LOL.
     
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  4. Aug 1, 2016 at 5:45 AM
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    +1 :benchpress:
    Hell yeah, If I needed or wanted a bigger truck!

    Cheers!
     
  5. Aug 1, 2016 at 6:35 AM
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    Towing is important for a lot of people, and tow ratings indeed 'mean something'. I'd venture to say there are more people who will tow with a Tacoma then there are people who will jack them up, slap larger tires on them on go 'wheeling'. Since dealers typically frown on a consumer showing up on their lots to test drive a new truck with their campers, boats or whatever... They rely on the manufacturers stated ratings of their vehicles ability.

    SAE J2807 is the standard that most manufacturers have adopted to put their 'tow ratings where their mouths are', so to speak. It is important to note that Toyota was the FIRST to adopt the standard.

    http://www.caranddriver.com/feature...-sae-trailering-standards-explained-tech-dept

    So yes- towing with a Tacoma is important to a lot of people. Yes- consumers should expect a truck to perform to their stated abilities.
     
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  6. Aug 1, 2016 at 6:46 AM
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    If the Taco was not able to tow to its rated capacity, it would open Toyota to all kinds of professional criticism and law suits.

    Someone on a forum saying it can’t tow means squat as for all we know their trailer brakes could be dragging or not hooked up right, properly aligned in height and on and on.

    Show some law suits or verifiable professional reviews such as consumer reports and the criticism will have a leg to stand on

    Hope that helps
    Cheers!

    Edit: Haters gonna hate, hate, hate but I nail it like I see it
     
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  7. Aug 1, 2016 at 7:15 AM
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    Toyota stopped making race cars when they stopped building the Supras. They shifted to focus on reliability and fuel efficiency. Most people look at Toyota as the brand of Camrys, Corollas, and Priuses. Personally, I'll sacrifice a slightly faster 0-60 time for reliability and resale value. That's why I drive a Tacoma and not a GMC Canyon. Plus have you looked at those damn things? Every other midsize pickup on the road looks like a crossover SUV besides our Tacomas and the dated, dated, DATED Frontier.
     
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  8. Aug 1, 2016 at 7:34 AM
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    My 2nd gen doesn't like to tow much either. I go slow, get in the right lane, don't accelerate hard,and brake easy. Kind of what your supposed to do when towing anyhow. When I'm doing that the revs stay around 2 K rpm, give or take, and that's the low end torque doing it's job. My problem with the new engine is there is no real low end torque, so I would have to rev it just to go slow... I like everything about the new truck except 2 things, engine and trans. Don't hate it or people defending it, but the old sayings are true, you can't replace displacement, except with forced induction. and we don't see that happening... So everyone that says the haters are going to hate, that's fine if you feel that way. I don't like the engine and trans combo, that's fine also.
     
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    True, who cares about a 0-60 time in getting the kids to soccer practice. I'll the the extra 1800 lbs and better build.
     
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    WOW...in what way is the 5000 tow limit an indication of the build...lmao....another one of your senseless quotes that makes no sense is this...Its just our mentality that we like torque instead of high rpm in todays technology........LOL...these are yours not mine
     
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    Boy you really are clueless. The unibody on that Ridge is not as strong. If you don't know stronger frames mean higher tow weights there is zero hope for you. Engineering 101.
    http://www.forconstructionpros.com/article/10116702/pickups-increase-capacity-and-efficiency
     
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    Its the unibody and low tow rating that concerns most of us. Do you really want to the strain the body of the vehicle when you're throwing gravel in the back or pulling a jet ski, etc?

    Now, maybe Honda has made some serious strides in this area, but I have my doubts. This is most likely a Pilot with a bed. Real trucks still use body-on-frame for a reason. The Ridgeline is most likely a great vehicle for family vacations and very light duty, but you won't see people lifting them for additional ground clearance for trail riding or throwing long travel kits on them.
     
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    Yep can tell by your quotes that you are a true genius......lol.....low tow capacity does not mean POS...just means lower towing limits...I dont care for the Ridgeline it is what it is
     
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    I think you are right I believe Honda is selling to a very small niche group of people
     
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    Easy now guys, come on now, we've all got real 4x4 here. No reason to get so upset over some unibody AWD wannabe truck. :crapstorm:
     
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    This goes way beyond the Ridgeline
     
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    I said stronger which it is. You said POS.
    Toyota used ultra strength high-strength steel . Engineering 102. Sorry my posts are too technical for you.
    http://www.autonews.com/article/201...ta-tacoma-engineer-wins-steel-institute-award

    Ridge uses unibody.
     
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  18. Aug 1, 2016 at 10:16 AM
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    " Its just our mentality that we like torque instead of high rpm in todays technology".......this your quote... this isnt technical......its true sign of being clueless
     
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    Isnt it past your kool aid time....bye bye
     
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    I like how you're changing the discussion of the high strength steel and Unibody because you really lost that one didn't you
     

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