Delete this thread please...

You're insinuating the vehicle had a mechanical failure without any credible evidence.
As far as safety goes, it's not just the vehicle that gets to be at fault, but it's also every driver, as they are is responsible for checking, inspecting and properly operating the vehicle.
And even in perfect driving conditions, if something can happen, odds are highly favorable that sooner or later it will.

The OP has already stated how dangerous that road is, I suggest you read his posts, and his article links, before jumping to your own conclusions.
Also all we know so far for sure is the following, and I quote from the article:

...".15 miles south of CR 400 North when the driver lost control of the vehicle and it left the roadway to the west. After leaving the roadway, Unit 1 continued traveling in the west ditch and ultimately struck a creek embankment and them came to rest pointing east."

That's indicative of lost control.

Hope that helps

 

I did read the article. I also believe in personal responsibility for vehicle maintenance. But the 3rd gen is a vehicle that is a year old and known for having certain parts fail early requiring quick action by their drivers in sketchy driving situations. Drivers can lose control for any reason including mechanical failures.

 

Hell, the driver could have spilled hot coffee on his shorts causing the crash. But I'm also saying that mechanical failure shouldn't be ignored as a possibility.

 

Again, I reiterate all the fact we know so far:

...".15 miles south of CR 400 North when the driver lost control of the vehicle and it left the roadway to the west. After leaving the roadway, Unit 1 continued traveling in the west ditch and ultimately struck a creek embankment and them came to rest pointing east."

That's indicative of lost control.

The hwy law enforcement personnel are highly trained and much more experience than anyone on this forum, at determining the facts that may have led to the accident.

They also have much more credibility than anyone on a forum trying to assign blame.

Hope that helps

 

You do know that crashes with fatalities also involve vehicle inspections by investigators. An investigation with a fatality isn't solved in an overnight news article. How do you think we found out about the Takata Airbag recall?

 

Again, please read the postings before you reply.

And to reiterate again and I quote "fact we know so far:" end quote. Key word here is "so far".

The Takata airbag fiasco is an on going concern for a different topic that crosses different makes/ models and is not part of this thread discussion.

But please feel free to start your own thread on that subject and enlighten us.

Hope that helps
Cheers!

 

If there is a CPS failure would there be evidence of it for investigators to find?

In the All Systems Failure thread, the OP there, pinkRN, reports that the dealer's diagnostic tests showed all systems normal following her sudden shutdown of systems, and shortly before the truck failed again while in the dealer's service department. It seems there is cause for concern that there may be faults that go undetected, and collisions like this may ultimately be written off as driver error.

How many Tacoma drivers would be prepared to cope with a sudden lack of power under conditions such as existed on this road? While there are other, and probably more likely, possible explanations for this particular collision, a mechanical or electronic failure that occurs even infrequently can have disastrous consequences. If there is no evidence of the failure afterwards, the link between the failure and fatality it may not recognized and there may not be the impetus to repair these issues until the body count becomes so great that it cannot be ignored.

 

And yet I've racked more offroad miles on my truck than most other 3rd gen owners. I don't baby it. No squeaks, no rattles, no whines, and no other issues to complain about. Yet your truck (or you) has had every issue known to man.

 

Airbag module logs most PIDs before, during, and after deployment. RPM would show 0 rpm if there was a CPS failure before airbag deployment.

 

Very scary indeed if the vehicle's system can't record certain failures.

 

Didn't you just make a thread about losing coolant during an off-road excursion the other day?

 

and yet my truck didn't break, I don't have to take it to the dealer, and I'm not loosing any sleep over it. Cost .02 to refill the over flow jug. But you wouldn't know because you don't even own a fucking tacoma.

 

So sorry OP, prayers to all involved, especially the 3 year old who is now fighting for life.

I think it's way too early to jump to any conclusions, and I don't believe it's our place to debate that here in a forum. Instead of the back and forth as to whether it's driver error, distraction, mechanical, or act of God, we should focus our thoughts on wishing that poor 3 year old survives in one piece, and pray that it wasn't our family that suffered that kind of tragic loss.

As for the outcome, all of our vehicles are equipped with black boxes that record the last seconds of any accident, as well there are highly trained investigation units working that site.

 

Ahem... I would say allegedly, the odds of having every issue claimed to have are pretty steep statistically and realistically speaking, but ok lmaoo!

Well that about clears that up, so much for the theory "If there is no evidence of the failure afterwards, the link between the failure and fatality it may not recognized and there may not be the impetus to repair these issues".

That helps clear that up
Cheers!

 

I don't get it. What's with all the speculation? Maybe he fell asleep. Maybe a deer ran out. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

Tragic crash. People died. No one may ever know definitively what caused it.

If I was worried my vehicle might malfunction in a way that would endanger my life, I sure as hell wouldn't be driving it.

 

True I don't own a Tacoma, but I've never lost a drop of coolant during off-road excursions with my FJ Cruiser and Land Cruiser and those vehicles are 9 and 12 yeard old respectively.

 

because there are people here (most don't even own a 3rd gen) who like to do nothing but stir shit up. Tell people scrolling through how much they suck, etc.

 

I could take the overflow off and cap the line and its not going to affect the performance of the cooling system. Hence the name "over flow".

 

It's about ppl looking to blame the '16 Toyota Tacoma for everything that goes wrong in this world.

Hope that helps

 

It's not affecting the performance, but it still sucks your losing some coolant.