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ABS on this truck is dangerous...

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by PA452, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. Jan 8, 2010 at 9:06 AM
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    My auto does it, but it's a 05 Tundy. I am not sure if they share the same system.
     
  2. Jan 8, 2010 at 9:08 AM
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    I forgot to mention. I own a 2007 Civic ex auto and the ABS feels the same on that car as it does in my truck. The systems may be made by the same company, I don't know, but other than being too sensitive for my taste, I'd still rather have ABS than not have it.
     
  3. Jan 8, 2010 at 9:09 AM
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    I would say every time I've had this happen, I've either had the clutch pedal pushed in or I was in neutral. The only reason I can say that confidently is because each time it was a problem was when I was approaching a stop, and typically at a speed below what 1st gear at idle would have me doing.

    Tire pressure is good. I haven't checked in the past couple weeks, but I did readjust them for winter maybe a month ago or so, and I don't think they've changed any since then.

    Truck was just recently inspected, and they check the brakes then. They said they were good to go. I don't think any kind of wear has anything to do with it though, because I had this complaint right from the start within a month of buying it new in February 2007.

    I did consider contacting the insurance company and asking about the ABS. As someone else said, not all vehicles have ABS, but I figure ABS is probably listed as a safety feature that affects what my rates are.

    I would say in the three years I've had the truck, there have been about four times where this ABS has put me in what could have been a dangerous situation. I've been very lucky each time that there were either no cars present or they were far enough away that I was able to avoid them. The fact that it happens so infrequently though is also a problem, because I will have a hard time getting a dealership to see the problem and then admit it's a problem. :(
     
  4. Jan 8, 2010 at 9:12 AM
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    My truck is a manual and the ABS acts the same whether I have the clutch pushed in or not. Usually when I'm braking hard, the clutch is pushed in to prevent a stall, but that takes away engine braking that you get with autos or manuals when they are in gear. Maybe next time I will try to wait until the last second to push in the clutch and see if that makes any difference.
     
  5. Jan 8, 2010 at 9:15 AM
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    Do you know offhand is that can be done without a locker?
     
  6. Jan 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM
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    Yes, you can search TTORA without a locker. :p
     
  7. Jan 8, 2010 at 9:17 AM
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    Is there a trick I'm not doing? If the ABS kicks in, TAKE YOUR FOOT OFF THE BRAKE. Then reapply gently, if you mash the pedal or freeze up and floor the pedal, yeah, you'll slide right through that intersection or whatever.

    But yeah, the ABS does seem to kick in a little quick for my taste. I wonder if it could be disabled without throwing a light?
     
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    Anyone who does not want the ABS to work.... Pump the brakes with your foot like we used to do in the older cars. That'll prevent the ABS from working properly.

    If you want ABS to work - then put your foot on the brakes and leave it there - DO NOT PUMP THE BRAKES.

    Problem solved.
     
  12. Jan 8, 2010 at 3:48 PM
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    It all depends on the driver. I'm Pretty aggressive driver in the snow. I can control my vehicles perfectly in the snow. Some people who are more cautious in bad weather tend to give themselves more room to stop so don't have to apply the brakes as harsh. Tires play a huge roll. From my stock tires I went to brt mud terrains n I think the abs only kicked in once since n iwas driving like a lunatic. IMHO, the factory settings are a little to sensative.
     
  13. Jan 8, 2010 at 4:02 PM
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    Also remember that the stock tires are complete garbage! I remember my first winter with my 05 DC Off-Road. I was all over the place, sliding through intersections, trying to make turns and kept going straight, ABS was kicking in like crazy... Heck they were even bad with just rain. I have a set of Nitto TG's I run in the summer and I run Mastercraft Courser MSR's in the winter, basically an all terrain snow tire. I rarely have ABS kick in unless I'm on solid ice nor do I use 4WD that much... Remember that tires can make a huge difference they are the only connection you have with the road...

    If you're sliding and ABS kicks in you've obviously lost traction and even if you didn't have ABS you still lost traction, so guess what the end result is, you're not stopping either way!
     
  14. Jan 8, 2010 at 4:05 PM
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    Sadly, only if the rear diff. is locked does the ABS shut off in our Tacomas. It was a pain four wheeling in my '05 with the ABS not letting me stop when I wanted to! So far the 2010 hasn't acted up... maybe they fixed it?
     
  15. Jan 8, 2010 at 4:05 PM
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    Yep. The problem is when this ABS kicks in and you weren't sliding to begin with.
     
  16. Jan 8, 2010 at 5:00 PM
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    PA452, I was wondering if you'll pop that ABS fuse out and see what happens. :D

    If it works you could put the fuse back in when the snow/ice is gone.
     
  17. Jan 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM
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    I just pop out the fuse when i dont want ABS. 30 second job and I dont have to solder or tap any wires.
     
  18. Jan 8, 2010 at 5:12 PM
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    Awesome. Your first hand experience is exactly what's needed.

    Just to clarify your talking about the 30A ABS fuse in the engine compartment fuse/relay box right?
     
  19. Jan 8, 2010 at 5:14 PM
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    ^ exactly, ask anyone who goes to Pismo with me, I always pop mine out. I love it! I just smash the brakes and the truck digs in like a foot into the sand, stops me dead in the tracks. No ABS telling me I cant brake or anything
     
  20. Jan 8, 2010 at 5:26 PM
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    +Reps sent to you! ABS in the sand was driving me nuts! :goingcrazy: Now I can dig in! :cool: Awesomenss! :headbang:
     

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