17 TRD PRO MT?

I'm sure they use a viscous coupler, but it's for the awd, not the trans. My baddddddd

 

research before you buy, not after

 

I totally get that. But post stupid shit to a forum of a truck you don't own about something you more than likely have little to no experience with, having never owned the truck? Nahhhh

 

I can understand that with a supercharger, that'd be a lot of fun. If you're going for something with a little speed a manual would be the way to go. I drive full-size trucks offroad all the time at work and I never feel like I'd benefit from a manual but like you said that might be because of the size and weight of those trucks. The Raptors tho, because they're somewhat fast, would be a blast with a manual.
I won't be doing any hardcore offroading like rock crawling and stuff in my Pro. I travel a lot of dirt roads on the weekends to get back to the gold mining claims (see my name) and the "desert racing" suspension Toyota is advertising with these trucks sounds perfect to me. Miles of washboard and some occasional sloppy mud during the rains and crappy little two-track mining roads filled with little boulders and rocks is the majority of what this truck will be seeing offroad.

 

You don't have to get it, this is a truck forum and you drive a wrx.

 

so much facepalm with this, too.

 

i love my truck in a manual. it's better for towing, it's better for snow, i've never offroaded in an automatic but i assume it's better? one of my biggest pet peeves is driving an automatic and it shifting at all these weird places, or when i didn't want it to, or having to brake all the freakin time.

plus i've only owned manual cars, so for me it's just more natural

 

I've owned a '98 SR5 2x4 manual, '00 TRD 4x4 manual and in addition to my '15 WRX I also currently own a '02 TRD Prerunner auto.

 

All the power to you, whatever you prefer, to each their own. I prefer the manual, it is a full second faster than the automatic 0-100kph and in the quarter mile (though the automatic goes through at higher speed, so would catch up later). I prefer it for off-roading, for the control I have over the vehicle.

There is literally only one circumstance that I would wish I had an automatic, and that is when starting from a stop on an uphill grade while towing a trailer, but the rest of the time towing prefer the manual.

Manuals tend to last longer than automatics, too, in my experience. And when something does go wrong, it's just a bearing or the clutch plates after 2 or 300k km.

The manuals are also cheaper to purchase, which matters to some people.

For the record, I owned a 2009 STI and the shifting in that was far from smooth. I never expected it to be, it was known to be particularly annoying in traffic, but extremely robust. I have the same feeling about the Tacoma. It isn't comparable to the STI, different style, but far from being like a dump truck and is likely very robust, like the STI.

 

I find the manual on my STi a joy to drive. The gearing is a little short, 5th gear comes up quick, but I really don't mind it too much in traffic. Feels very precise and tight to me. I'm one of the rare people who like the Hill Assist feature too.
I'm just torn on the manual in the Tacoma partly because years ago I had a little incident with a wet offramp in the rain that I downshifted on to engine brake and the rear end spun out on me. Between the offroad tires and the lightweight rear end the rear-wheel drive truck spun out on me. I was trying to drive the truck like a sportscar and I paid the price.

 

if you're in law enforcement and have experience on a Crown Vic, Ford Panther chassis or 2wd tahoe, - in the wet - you'll find driving a 2wd taco g3 with driver aids to be effortless.

 

or you could have braked, locked them up with the weight transfer, not been in the power, and still lost the rear end. at least with it in gear you can give it gas to transfer the weight back and try to gain traction

 

Happens to me fairly often when off-roading, going around hair pins and slowing down quickly, switch into first and the engine braking makes the rear end kick out...but I wouldn't be doing that in the rain on an off-ramp. It's definitely not an STI, it's an off-road truck. Different monsters.

I will warn you first gear is extremely short in the Tacoma, as far as I am concerned. Great for accelerating but can be annoying in traffic.

 

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I've been out of the Subaru game for awhile now, but back with the bugeye models, they ran viscous couplers in the MT that act as a limited slip diff between the front and rear wheels. This site has a ton of info on the specifics. As edited above, I'm only partially correct

 

You must have never driven a vehicle with a spec'd billet triple disc lock up converter and locked it up at WOT in a vehicle with some real horsepower then if you believe that LOL.