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Supercharged 2002 3 link

Discussion in 'Solid Axle Suspension' started by Jimmynolife, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. Aug 22, 2016 at 3:43 PM
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    I had one of the TG cross members. My link brackets eliminated the idea of using it, I simply couldn't make it work. Would have been great if it did.
    PITA to build a new after the OEM was removed w/o taking measurements or at least getting a reference point to build from.

    Truck is looking good man. I'm hoping to get mine out in a few weeks to try it out.
     
  2. Aug 22, 2016 at 3:56 PM
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    Yeah my links are real short (all pro kit) do I can make it work I've looked around and seen no other option than that or building my own.
     
  3. Aug 22, 2016 at 3:58 PM
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    This weekend I've gotta deal up my front diff. My 3rd just keeps leaking, and it's only getting worse. The ultra grey RTV just ain't cutting it so I'm gonna use the Toyota black sealant.

    If anyone has any other suggestions as far as sealant goes I'd love to hear them
     
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  4. Aug 22, 2016 at 6:45 PM
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    Permatex the right stuff. However im running paper f/r and they arent leaking.
     
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  5. Sep 4, 2016 at 12:01 PM
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    Well I sealed up my 3rd up front.

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    After it was all said and done found what has to be atleast a 1 1/2" sheet metal screw in my rear passenger side tire. And all my tires seem to have slow leaks.

    I think it's time to finally not run tires that 10 years old haha.

    With that being said. I'm ok with running 37" again, but would like something for along the 39" size. Would love some input on what works best for you DD guys out there. Or am I insane for wanting to run 39"?
     
  6. Sep 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM
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    If you do 39s why not just trim for the extra inch and do 40s? Better selection of tires if I remember from looking while I was dreaming.
     
  7. Sep 4, 2016 at 12:23 PM
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    Yeah that would be the plan if I can't find any cheaper 39s. Most 40s really measure out to like 38.5" I think pit bull tires are the only company that measure true to size
     
  8. Sep 4, 2016 at 12:29 PM
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    If you want 37s I might be able.to get you a decent deal on some 37x12.5x17 general grabbers
     
  9. Sep 4, 2016 at 12:31 PM
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    True but not a fan of the pit bulls look. And can't really chime in on them.

    Quick question though, what rear axle are you using and how wide is the front and rear. Wms-wms? Any problems with stability
     
  10. Sep 4, 2016 at 12:31 PM
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    That's nice of you man, I've had grabbers before but they don't too well in the rocks. :(
     
  11. Sep 4, 2016 at 12:37 PM
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    I've got the stock E locker rear axle with 5.29s and 1" spacers (62 3/4")

    Front is Tacoma width rock assault (61 3/4) with ifs hubs and front range Tacoma brake kit which adds another 2 3/4" overall. So over all the front is 64 1/2" wms

    Stability is great. Not super wide but not super narrow. I didn't like how narrow the rock assault housings were stock solid axle hubs
     
  12. Sep 4, 2016 at 1:00 PM
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    A few more inches in the front and you could have gone full-width :D

    It seems like 40" has become the most popular tire size. Many people settle for 39"s. However, it is not accurate to say that most tires in the 39"-40" flavor measure 38". Radial Nittos, ProComp, and some BFG and some Maxxis seem true to size - that is, unmounted of course. Super aggressive bias ply tires like Pitbulls and Swampers and others tend to be all over the place when it comes to size.

    I got a set of 40" Nitto Trail Grapplers for my build, and they are a true 40" unmounted. I intend to DD with them once the SAS is finished. After all the work to do a SAS I wanted to run the biggest tire I could fit under the trucks, so 40" was the winning size.

    Though it doesn't seem like a couple of inches would make that big of a difference between a 37" and a 40"... reality is that 40"s are HUGE and heavy by comparison. Each one of my tires, unmounted, weights 104lbs :eek: I don't even want to know how much they'll weight mounted.

    Check out the 40" Procomp Extreme MT2. It has excellent reviews, and they come with a 40,000 thread wear warranty. Apparently they are light years ahead of the old model, and the cost less than $400 each. I came this close from purchasing a set from the local 4WP. They are cheaper than any other 40" tire brand, and the thread is relatively aggressive for a radial tire..similar to the Coopers. They are radials too, which means...heavy! But I found a local guy selling a set of used Nittos for a price I couldn't pass on. My next tire set will be the Procomps for sure. I think they are the best compromise for a DD...even on a 37" flavor.

    Here in the southwest there are tons of guys DDing with 40"s. One issue I see is that 40"s are very expensive, and it would be kind of a waste to spend that much money on big tires that will be worn out on the highway - more of an issue with bias tires I guess. The other issue you might have is that those toyota axles might not be happy with 39"-40"s - especially the ring and pinion...I guess it all depends on your wheeling habits too.

    BTW, I never had issues sealing my 3rds with the ultra gray or black silicone. Kind of weird that you struggle with it.
     
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    Ahh okay. I knew yours looked super wide. Didn't realize you could use the fror on the rock assault housing. I really want to go 37s one day but need to get a shorter pitman to be able to move the axle foward and clear the firewall.

    Are you worried about breaking axle shafts with that big of a tire? 39s or even 40s? I would say look at the 4 mentioned above. From the few I know with pit bulls and swampers, they aren't super road freindly. I'd go with what you can get a replacement warranty on from discount or someone so when you get a flat, you can have it replaced free of charge. What I did on mine.
     
  14. Sep 4, 2016 at 1:16 PM
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    Shorter pitman arm or :sawzall: everything around to make the bigger tire fit :D

    I think the chromo axle shafts might survive with the bigger tires. My biggest worry would be the differentials actually.

    For a DD, my personal opinion is to go with radials. Bias ply tires are cheaper, so many people get them at first because of the lower price. But they wear down faster and tend to ride terrible on the highway.

    There's always a compromise with tires. Radias are highway friendly but not as aggressive offroad. I take the nicer highway ride option.
     
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    I think I'm gonna get a set of 40s and save for beadlocks so I can run 40s and beadlocks on harder trips, then keep my non beadlock wheels and get a set of used 37s for more daily driving duties.

    With the ultra grey...the bottom of the rock assault housings have less than 1/2" of surface for it to seal, when I first put my 3rd in I didn't put enough in the right places. It wasn't the ultra greys fault. It was my dumb ass
     
  16. Sep 4, 2016 at 1:23 PM
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    And I was definitely considering the pro comps for either 40" or 37" for the price and warranty it seems like a good deal
     
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    Having two sets of tires is the best idea. I wish I could afford that right now. But eventually I want to do this.

    Yea...those Procomps are awesome. Seen a bunch of rigs here in AZ with them. I really like them. And the thread is actually more aggressive than what you see on pics online. At the store they had a 37" next to a 40". The 40" was way bigger haha.

    Your situation proves the point that everybody eventually wants to go bigger. I think it's inevitable. The best advise I got when I started my build was to go big (tire size) from the get go. I like the idea that I can fit a 37"-42" tire of any brand under my rig easily. It gives me more options without having to re-do things.

    Glad to hear you found the source of the leak LOL
     
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    I mean the ultimate goal is to get a nice diesel truck for my tow rig/daily driver and make my taco a trailer queen/beat the hell out of it and not have to worry about making a long drive home. So for now I'll probably stick with 37s and look for a deal on some beadlocks and 40s down the line
     
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    That's my long term goal too. Having a dedicated trail rig is nice! As you said, it means less worries and more freedom.
     
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    I used to be all about driving my wheeler everywhere and for a while I DD'ed my Tacoma but the reality is that everything you do to make it better on the trail just makes it worse on road. Especially when you start to factor in tire wear on a $2k set of tires or how loud and generally uncomfortable a wheeler gets with time. After I've spent all day in the Taco, all I want to do is rest in my climate controlled (relatively) quiet F250 where I can set the cruise and sail home
     

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