TRD supercharger?

Sounds good ....dream on

 

Not really, Toyota should know that all it takes is a turbo Lexus motor and these trucks would be midsized monsters.

 

lol good luck. Isn't like everything illegal in California?

With all the new EPA shit no one will do it.
Plus throw a supercharger on it and say bye bye to their estimated 20mpg.
I doubt toyota will do it since it will kill their EPA.

 

Not really what?...Toyota has never put a turbo in a truck and probably never will...Lexus motor in a Toyota truck??

 

if you want towing you should probably buy a fullsize lol.
Really don't understand when people say it can't tow. If I had any significant weight to tow I'd buy a fullsize not a midsized

As much as I love turbos no thanks.
Not good for off road.

an Eco diesel option would be great. They offer it in the Hilux, why not the taco?
Would be a great way to get a decent torque and some good MPG.

A lot of toyotas have needed stand alone systems.
But yep agreed, can't see Toyota TRD offering a supercharger anymore. It will kill their MPG. Doesn't matter where you are whether its the US or Canada. North America is so green happy now days its ridiculous. I agree to an extent yes we do need to be concerned with the environment, but the level they have taken it to is ridiculous.
I swear Ontario is so far gone. The government here hates anything gas powered they tax us out of the ass. Yet they so quickly keep putting bike lanes in everywhere, even far into the suburbs where no one rides a bike as a method of commuting. Our fuel is taxed way too much, we pay upwards of 25-30cents/litre of taxes on fuel. They give upwards of $10 000 rebates on electric vehicles. Which is another fuck up all on its own. They're giving all these tax breaks for electric vehicles yet if everyone stops driving electric where do they think they will get all that tax revenue from that they get on fuel? Even natural gas for our heating is going up come January.
Every year you need to buy a stupid sticker for your license plate, if you don't have it, its a $300 ticket. If you aren't in rural ontario that sticker is $120 a year, it was $80 a year 3 years ago.

As long as Provinces and States are pulling this shit we can say goodbye to superchargers.

 

the 3.5L 2GR FKS is the same engine used in Lexus which they have turbocharged.

 

In a Lexus...yes ....Toyota NO

 

Well really it's a Toyota motor in a Lexus application

 

Unless you actually work with the engineers you can't say for certain that they'd never do it. With the whole mpg issue and diesel is most likely out of the question, I don't see the the Atkinson cycle alone doing much to up mpgs.

 

but you said lexus motor in a toyota truck?
it is a lexus motor in a toyota truck. just not turbocharged.

I agree with you they won't do it. But the way you worded it sounded like you were saying Toyota would never put an engine they use in Lexus in a toyota...which they have just a different set up of it.

 

You definitely have NOT driven one.
I tow 8 hours through the high elevation Rocky Mountains to Lake Powell every year.
The most impressive thing IMO about this truck is the towing performance. I ended up at about 15-15.5 MPG's @ about 75 MPH. Plenty of low end torque on this truck. It obviously all depends on what you're towing but compared to my 2nd gen it tows much better.

 

Maybe doug thinks he should be able to tow the same as a dodge ram 3500, you know he thinks the 3.5L can tow the same 30 000lbs the Cummins can pull.

I personally don't really do any towing so I don't care what it can tow since I won't be doing so. The most I'd maybe tow is a small little trailer full of some tools for up at the cottage. Just a small 4x6 trailer. Nothing big, the little ones you can rent from Uhaul that you can tow with a car just for some added cargo to get my table saw, and mitre saw up to the cottage for some work up there.

 

I completely agree turbos are not good for off roading, I'm saying if we were to ever see a turbo or supercharger for the 3.5, i'm guessing it would most likely be a turbo since they are more efficient and most other manufacturers are going this route.

I'm not saying diesels are bad, I just don't think I would want one in a midsize pickup. The hilux is in a completely different market where the emissions aren't as strict as the U.S.

Not to mention up front diesels cost a premium and they are more expensive to maintain over time. I'm pretty sure i've read on here that the eco diesel in the ram has been having issues.

The primary reason for purchasing diesel is to tow, and that's not at the top of the list for tacoma owners.

 

The 3rd gen makes about the same amount of torque, just about 600 rpm higher. It also makes more hp. Sounds to me you should step up to a full size.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by efficient. More efficient at making power? Definitely, more fuel efficient definitely not.
One of the main reasons Audi moved away from the turbo in their S line is because of that. Emissions in europe are very strict too.
Turbo set ups require a lot more exhaust gas to spool them up. I've read a few articles explaining it why many have moved from turbos to superchargers. Just really helps with emission ratings.
The only place they seem to be going with turbos is with these really dinky little engines like the dodge dart, vw jetta/golf with the tsi.

all like 1.6-1.8L engines just use really tiny turbos to help give them a bit more power.
When it comes to the MPG though the supercharger would be the better route.

My uncle has the new eco diesel hasn't had any problems and I've talked to a few guys at work on the jobsite about them that have them, biggest complaint they all have is that there is no aftermarket option for the oil filters yet and the diesel exhaust fluid shit is expensive.
Only oil filter option from what I've heard is a mopar filter and its pricey. Makes the oil changes upwards of $190.

I'm slightly biased though. I've owned 3 different VW TDI's so I love diesel lol.
I'd love having a diesel in a tacoma. aren't just great for towing but also great for MPG.

 

Agreed, if it was more fuel efficient we would have seen a turbo from the start. Would be pretty sweet to see a supercharger as an option, but doubt it will ever happen. Diesels sound great...if i was towing a lot sure. Look at the canyon and colorado...the diesel has like what 700 pounds more towing capacity? All the extra money you have to spend doesn't sound worth it...it's still a mid size pickup. Yeah you get more mpg..but it takes so long for you to get that money back after many years of ownership.

 

depends how much you drive and cost of fuel.
From what I hear the US, diesel is usually more than gas anyways.

But here its significantly cheaper.
I just filled up yesterday for 83cents/L regular gas is like 96-98cents a litre.
The lowest I filled up this summer was 79c/L. So here where diesel is cheaper its better to have.

 

Just to set the record straight....there is no "Lexus" 2GR, just Lexus applications. All 2GRs share the same basic architecture and really only differ on the top end. The 2GR was designed initially to replace the 1MZ and 3MZ applications and saw it's first application back in 04 in the 05 Avalon. It trickled up to the Lexus lineup over the next few years. The ES and RX received it first, by default, because they were Camry and Highlander based. There are differences in power ratings depending on the exact versions of the 2GR used, plus intake and exhaust routing differences between models. Also, marketing plays a role too.

It's much more accurate to say your Lexus has a Toyota engine rather than bragging that your Taco has a Lexus engine. Much the same way a Cadillac Escalade has a SBC mill or an ATS with a warmed over Camaro engine.

Hope those Colorado guys aren't bragging about their "Caddy motors".

 

Ford does it with thier Eco boost. And I believe as long as your not driving with a lead foot your mpgs should improve. Or so I'm told. I have no experience with either S/C or turbo, so I really don't know.

 

Yea I get that. But for me I'm geting ready to drop 5-6K on a stage 4 icon lift and 33s. I would much rather spent that money on a S/C and keep it at stock height.