2014 GMC Sierra for 2017 TRD off road

It's around 38% last time I looked. Using statistics, if the 38% of the sampled population surveyed have it one could come to the conclusion 38% of the population not surveyed do as well. Think politics, etc. my 17 loaner at 850 miles has it not as loud but that's how mine started im willing to bet a lot more have it and don't realize it, etc. not saying some don't but extremely doubt it's only 180 as you just alluded too. Things like this aren't new to Toyota think frame recall. What makes Toyota different is they tend to stand behind their product and fix it. Only time will tell if this is a little first years issue or an actual design/manufacturing defect the truck is still too new so speculation at best on regards to long term. But it's not a small issue amongst a few clearly and not fixed as guys with 17s in the diff thread are posting they have it. I don't understand the denail or huge effort to disagree with those who have have it. This is my 5th Tacoma I love these trucks but this one has had the most issues by far.

 

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The 5.3 is "dead reliable" and the trans is a lot better then the tacos. Really no company is better then another at this point. Except the models for the other trucks have been out a lot longer with the bugs worked out

 

A poll on this forum is not a true sample of taco owners. I have had this debate already on this forum. The biggest reason why- More people go online to bitch and complain (vent) or looking for information to fix the issues than folks coming to praise.

Edit: I am not trying to discount those that have issues. But there is no statistical logic in "if the 38% of the sampled population have it one could come to the conclusion 38% of the population not surveyed do as well" That thinking does not work for me.

and the 180 is the number I pulled from the post I quoted, my point being some one said 170 in one post, then 180 in another.

 

Its 177, it changes its an open thread/poll dude. 170, 180 really that matters to you, clearly your missing the point.

And the poll has more than just those with an issue, did you notice all the people who reported no issue or not as of yet. Out of 400 tacoma owners or so, 177 of them have a howl. Im willing to bet there are a lot more your can make numbers look anyway, regardless there are a good amount of people with this issue and I bet a bunch more as TW is only a small fraction of tacoma owners, most grandpas, etc. will just go straight to the dealer for the issue instead of here.

Keep disagreeing or trying to put holes in it, I hope your 17 has no issues, but don't be surprised when your visiting that thread saying, yep have it, as many who said they didnt initially ended up coming back and reporting they did later.

Either way as pertaining to THIS THREAD, OP asked about if he should trade, some here mentioned issues they are having and referenced, facts and other threads, that you cannot argue, your theory or however you want to extrapolate that poll to make yourself feel better has nothing to do with this thread nor does it help OP.

 

Thanks for you well wishes, I hope I don't have any problems.

There is no way you can use that poll to say 38% of tacomas have this issue. Again, out of those 177 folks, how many googled, my tacoma is making noise and end up here? versus how many people google my Tacoma is freaking the best truck in the world, I don't want to change a thing and then end up here?

Fact- an online forum poll in no way represents the actual number of issues. Yes there are issues, but there is no way for you to say 38% of the trucks have this issue. I don't understand how a poll on here can be taken as gospel. Now you can say A poll on TW shows that 38% of those reporting have the issue.

As far as helping the OP, maybe he should go read about
http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/151589-guess-what-i-found-under-my-truck-yesterday/
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/gmc_sierra.html

Thats just a quick google. Point being, they each have their issues.

 

Dude your discounting the other 200+ that said they had no issue in that same poll, your acting like the poll/thread is only for those that have an issue and is skewed, very very wrong. As with most threads on here, we all come here as enthusiasts, see a thread that we find interesting, whether to educate us, etc. and either participate in it or not, guess what a bunch of guys WITHOUT the issue participated in the poll. For f**k sakes dude this isn't some conspiracy. And no one is taking it for gospel. But guess what when a small community of owners (TW) has 170 new 3rd gen owners with the same problem, you can sure as hell bet there are more that aren't here on this forum, not sure why you are even arguing that.

Point is this truck has issues, just because you say it does dosent mean you don't like the truck, I love mine, again for the 100th f-ing time, I've had 5 of these trucks, they all had quirks or what not but this truck has had the most and in the shortest amount of time of ownership. Just look at the forum, there are more than 177 diff howl owners who have had some issue whether fixed, small or not with their truck, there is no arguing that. OP asked our thoughts, we gave them. Honestly if anyone's opinion held weight it would be the people WHO ACTUALLY OWN THE TRUCK and in OP's case a few of us including myself have owned both his model Silverado/sierra and the new tacoma. When you do own one then you can chime in about how great they are and problem free until then you are simply speculating with no first hand experience. But continue please.

 

You said that because the poll says 38% here have issues, then 38% outside the forum have the issue. You can not make that correlation. And you can not tell me that some folks don't end up here because they have issues, while other will never end up here because they have no issues. I am arguing the fact you stated that 38% of Tacomas have this issue.

And you are wrong with your statement "we all come here as enthusiast"

Just because I am not currently an owner of a 3rd gen has no bearing on our conversation about your 38% statistic statement.

 

Always thought the domestics made good full size trucks, even when the quality of their other cars totally sucked. I attribute that to the high profit margin of pickups. The passenger cars made by the domestics of the 80's,90's and 2000's totally sucked across the board. I think after the financial collapse of 2008 they are making better passenger cars now. Not as good as the Japanese yet, but the gap seems to be closing.

 

That's what statistics are, that's how polls are conducted, how businesses create new products, etc. Numbers are numbers, one can correlate based on that, whether you feel its accurate or not is your opinion. Either way THERE ARE MORE THAN A FEW WITH ISSUES.

okay fine not all enthusiasts but looking at all the lift threads, part threads, etc. most of us are, you're new here.

And yes it does, would you take the advice from someone who owns the vehicle you want to buy or someone who simply ordered one/plans on buying one, I would trust the person who has first hand experience first. No arguing that. Until then your opinion is simply that.

 

Yes opinions are like assholes, every one has one, well most do, you know 96.54%.

And any accurate poll has a random survey of a qualified population. That's a fact, not my asshole talking.

And I have not given the OP any advice on what to purchase, but my advice would be, buy the Tacoma, the brand has shown it holds its value unlike the GMC.

Oh and just because I'm new here doesn't mean shit in our conversation, we are discussing statistics.

 

You claimed most aren't enthusiasts, which if you had been here awhile as a member you would know that's not the case.

How do you figure its not a random survey of the Tacoma owners? Your assuming its skewed. Just saying a lot of assumptions, but given there wont ever be a full vetted, properly surveyed population poll for that specific issue one can assume (yes its an assumption) that in all likelihood there are more people that have the issue outside of this forum and that it would be similar to those who have said so in this forum. 177 owners here isn't something to bat an eye at/dismiss.

My frustration stems from people who are on some freaking witch hunt that anyone that says this truck isn't perfect are just hating or full of sh*t. Which is totally inaccurate and not fair to those trying to make an informed decision/seek advice.

 

I agree with your above post.

 

I swear I'm not an asshole in real life. Good luck with your 17, overall I'm happy with my 16 and Toyota customer service restored a bit after my diff repair.

 

I never thought you were an asshole, I however can be one if pushed there, sometimes I even enjoy it.

I know there are issues with this truck, we just can't quantify how many.
I joined this forum looking for pictures and info about the new Tacomas and have been stunned by the negativity spewed in this forum, still hasn't convinced me to cancel my order. Although I really don't want the payment yet, but family needs more room than my AC, and just didn't want full size truck. And have been very happy with my previous Tacomas, hope that continues.

 

I have a Tacoma and an opinion... both of which the OP asked for and I gave it ... sorry you need more "facts".

Why are you here? Sell your f'ing Taco and go over to the Fiat blog.. I'm sure everyone over there (where ever that is) is totally happy with their trucks. You should fit right in and maybe find happiness.

 

Great attitude and absolutely no contribution as usual from your posts. Why would I sell my truck? I've owned 5 of them and spent a lot more time working on, driving them, etc. than you, I will give Toyota the chance to make it right as they have so far, but I wont sit here and deny the issues with this gen, you got called out on your posts and the lack of fact/substance, sorry your upset. When you actually have something to contribute to this forum besides blind ass fan boy love and spewing hate for anyone that disagrees with your opinion on the truck you so love and think is perfect than feel free to chime in newb. Some people's kids.

 

If you go to the new generation ram forum, you will immediately see that far fewer guys are having problems with their trucks. Have you driven one or do you own one?

 

Ok, to get back to the OP original question; I have both a 2016 Tacoma and a 2013 GMC Sierra (yes I know not a 2014 but it has the 5.3l and 6-speed). The GMC Sierra was my father's and he recently gave it to my kids to use to go to work/school. I apologize in advance for the long post and the opinions are mine alone.

GMC: My father bought it new just as the 2014s were coming out and put 16K miles on. He had no issues with it whatsoever and only took it back to the dealer for the free oil changes. He did install a K&N filter and a leveling kit on the front end to bring it up about 1.5" (not sure the exact amount and he could not find the paperwork on the spacer kit). I drove it back to Iowa from Utah (~1,100 miles). I can say it is extremely comfortable to drive long distances. I did the drive in one long day and was not fatigued at the end even though I am 49. The seating and driving position is very accommodating for my frame (6' and 175#). Initially I was not sold on the 5.3l as I thought it seemed a bit small for a full size truck (to be blunt I had only driven in town before). I did learn it has plenty of power and is very well matched to the transmission. I ran 75MPH the entire way home and the transmission did not hunt for gears at all. It shifted down to 5th a few times on long inclines and only once shifted to 4th (on that big climb to the Lincoln Highway rest stop on 80 east of Laramie). It quickly shifted back to 5th and held 75 all the way up. At the top the trans temp read about 170 (that was the highest it ever got, including soakback when I stopped for fuel). As an added bonus it averaged 21 MPG (I average 20.5 at 70MPH in the Tacoma and that is on non-ethanol fuel). I was/am very impressed with the engine/trans combination for power and fuel economy on the highway. However, the truck averages 14MPG in town (the Tacoma averages 18MPG in town). The room in the front of the GMC is obviously greater than in the Tacoma and I feel the console has a better layout. The GMC is an extended cab (suicide rear doors) but the back is just about as roomy as the Tacoma, however the rear seats only fold up and there appears to be no storage behind them and there are not storage lockers underneath unlike the Tacoma. But again, I am comparing a dual cab to an extended cab. For towing the GMC hands down beats the Tacoma. When I tow my car hauler I will obviously use the GMC. If I had to take off and drive across country I would also likely take the GMC (better economy and a bit more room).

Tacoma: I ordered the Tacoma new in January of this year and picked it up in late February. I have not had any issues with it and currently have about 5K miles on it. I did lube the zerks on the driveline but I am not sure if that would have been a long term issue. The engine, while not a powerhouse, does have plenty of power and is well matched to the manual transmission. With all the complaints with the automatic I am glad I did not go that rout. I have not really taken either one off road but gut feel is that the Tacoma would perform better. Also the interior quality of the Tacoma appears to be better put together and with better materials (the GMC has a lot of hard plastic). I much prefer the HVAC layout (and the overall dash and controls lay out) in the Tacoma with the rotary knobs in place of push buttons. The exterior paint and trim is comparable between the two trucks with the exception of the mirrors. The mirrors on the GMC are black plastic and do not seem as solid as the Tacoma mirrors. The underhood of the Tacoma is much busier and the GMC appears to be much easier to work on. In addition if you want to mod the engine in the GMC you have a myriad of choices. There seems to be little in terms of mods available for the 3.5l in the Tacoma (though that may change in the future). I have only taken the Tacoma on one long trip of about 300 miles and although it is quieter than the GMC the seating position is not quite as good over the long haul. I would guess after 1,000 miles I would be a bit sore in the lower back and knees (although nothing that a walk and stretch would not fix right up). Yet another reasons that I would chose the GMC over the Tacoma for a cross country run.

Bottom line is that aside from the interior the build quality is very similar. There have been no issues with either truck. If I had the GMC before the Tacoma would I have traded it in on a new Tacoma? No, I would not as it would serve my purpose as a family vehicle just fine. However I would still choose the Tacoma over the GMC if I was starting from scratch or needed a family vehicle and did not have the GMC. On another point, If I needed to also tow my car hauler I would have picked the GMC if I did not already have a '93 K3500. So OP, I would not trade your 2014 in for a new Tacoma. As much as I love the Tacoma I could just not justify dumping a 3 year old truck and taking the financial hit. But again this in only MY opinion You need to be happy and in the end its your decision and your money.

 

Hey man the OP asked about a Tacoma.. I, UNLIKE you have had ZERO problems... so what you're saying is as long as everyone agrees with you you're cool with it. I'm just expressing MY opinion based on MY experience. You on the other hand are saying a good percentage of folks that have 3rd gens have issues. I doubt thats the case.

As I stated before, and this is a fact; the folks with issues are a )))) LOT LOUDER (((( about it than us folks without issues. Just sayin..

You owned 5 Tacomas and now are trashing them and us happy owners. I don't get it?? Go drive your "Fiat" and sell the Taco if your un-happy with it. Life is too short (another fact).

BTW... not upset here, first of all I would have to give a shit to be upset! Clearly not the case, I'm happy with my truck and my life.

You clearly are not happy ....I'm soo sorry!