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101 Atheist Quotes

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  1. Oct 10, 2016 at 9:13 AM
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    Ah... I see what you mean.
     
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    we are talking here and or question why man has conscience or why animals do not?

    "Humans" and "animals" alike who are "mammals", share many things, like one major one would be mammary glads...

    I think if something living has the ability to make milk and feed milk to its babies, it may just have the ability to have a conscience as well, humans, animals, mammals, primates alike.
     
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    Yes, but we have NO conciess because we ate them, remove them from their habitat, destroyed their ecosystem, poisoned their water and on top of if used weapons to hurt them and call Hunting an Sport / Hobby.:boom:
     
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    I fail to see your point, as WE do that to one another just as much onto animals, as well those animals are very much able of hunting and killing humans I believe.
     
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    for all i know the black bear was scolded by mama bear after mauling the family in the forests back country.
     
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    Please forgive me but I'm having a hard time understanding the grammar you are using so I'm losing something in the translation.

    The original question we proposed was if we, as human beings, are the only ones with a conscience? I contend that we are not. Humans are not the only animals that form bonds and a social structure. Dolphins (and orcas) for example live in pods and tend to live with the same group for the eternity of their lifespan. Dolphins use more of their brain than us humans and therefore are extremely intelligent animals.

    Elephants also do something similar and are very self aware of themselves. A study was done where where they marked a big white x on the head of a elephant and placed a large mirror in front of him. The elephant looked into the mirror and used his trunk to attempt to wipe the x off of his face. The is the essence of self awareness and being conscious of oneself. These are just a few of the animal species that are capable of self awareness but also consciousness of oneself and the interactions between others.
     
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    why is sexual assault wrong? why is stealing wrong? why is murder wrong? etc..........
     
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    huh??? :facepalm:

    question for you @coffeesnob , do you assume that all living mammals Do Not have Their Own manor of stealing with in species? murder with in species? heck, sexual assault between species??

    Is it confirmed that Only human species does these things with in its species??
     
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    Guys, you're getting off track and on the road to getting this thread locked. Tread lightly.
     
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    off track...

    So any Noam Chomsky fans here??
     
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    Hint: Consent is lacking, and we make laws that forbid doing things without mutual consent, not because a bible or god said it was wrong.
     
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    That's a very weird question, but laws forbidding those actions aside... It's morally wrong? I'm an atheist but I think that my ability to have a decent set of morals without believing in a higher power makes me a good person no matter what belief system you subscribe to. I'm not perfect by any means and I still make poor decisions sometimes. We all do. But sexual assault, stealing, or murder is something that I've never had a desire to do and in all honesty has never crossed my mind. Belief in a higher power doesn't necessarily make you a good person. Treat others as you would like to be treated is very easy and in my personal opinion is the right thing to do.
     
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    Science much ?
     
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    Nailed it. We find morals by being empathetic - we empathize with others when we understand how a victim feels, thus we shouldn't want to impose that on others. I sure don't need a magic man in the sky to tell me that I have to feel that way.
     
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    The original question we proposed was if we, as human beings, are the only ones with a conscience?

    Ohh... ok so my answer will be : No , we're not the only one with conscience but my comments were how ironic we have the highest conscience and intelligence in this world and what we do to animals and other humans is like we act without any kind of conscience , worst than animals.
     
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    I think the point that "we have the highest rate of intelligence and consciences" may be greatly assumed.
    I would argue that maybe animals have the greater power, and maybe that is why they do not turn on us humans or on one another so frequently for that matter.
     
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    We act like primates. They do horrible things to each other in the name of territoriality, and humans have been doing the exact same ever since departing that branch and going our own way. The difference is that we have advanced our methods of killing each other, while primates just rip off each other's faces and testicles.
     
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    why is it morally wrong?
     
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    that goes back to conscience.... thank you..
     
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