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BFG KO2 questions

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by 17Taco, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. Oct 11, 2016 at 8:31 AM
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    17Taco

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    I just ordered the trd pro wheels from my local dealer. Now I'm wanting to pick up the BFG KO2s. I have a couple questions;

    1. Are the white wall versions reversible/black? It's my understanding they are not

    2. Anyone know of a great price on the black wall version of the 265/70/17s? Toyota can't get them, local tire shops want 1100, Amazon has white wall version for 840 shipped (prime), and tire rack wants $150 for shipping.
     
  2. Oct 11, 2016 at 8:35 AM
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    They are reversible. I bought mine at bjs wholesale. Least expensive to me
     
  3. Oct 11, 2016 at 8:36 AM
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    I believe they are reversible, and the letters need to be "scrubbed" to show the white off better. Keep in mind, your local tire shop is probably including free mounting, balancing, and rotations for the life of the tire. I'd call multiple tire shops and see how close you can get them to the Amazon prime offer. Obviously they won't match (I don't think), but they might get close. My local tire shop quoted me $985 for 275/70/17 with tax and everything.
     
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    I have the blackwall out and whitewall in.
     
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  6. Oct 11, 2016 at 8:46 AM
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  7. Oct 11, 2016 at 8:50 AM
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    Be sure to order the C-load version, and not the stiff riding heavy E-load that will hurt power and MPGs.
     
  8. Oct 11, 2016 at 9:04 AM
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    Protip! Thanks!

    Next question, where can I get some good black lug nuts?
     
  9. Oct 11, 2016 at 9:07 AM
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    Of course I'm not running the same size but I went from C of another brand to these in E and kept the same mpg. Ride is the same but I feel them with the power..
     
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  10. Oct 11, 2016 at 9:08 AM
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    Weigh your options locally also, just because you get some great deal online you might end up paying the same when you get them mounted and balanced
     
  11. Oct 11, 2016 at 9:16 AM
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    I believe the Tire Fairy has just spoken, but what if ...

    - he tows
    - wants heavier sidewall protection
    - has lots of money and doesn't care about mpg

    ?????

    So many questions...
     
  12. Oct 11, 2016 at 10:40 AM
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    Use cases is a valid question.

    Even with GVWR maxed out, and tongue weight maxed out at the same time, you will still will not come remotely close to exceeding the capacity of C-load. This is a mid-side pickup, not an F350 Super Duty. If you are surpassing the towing abilities with C-load tires you are towing with the wrong vehicle.

    Unless you are into super extreme rock crawling (seems unlikely on 265s on a brand new 2017) this should not be an issue if you have a tire with good sidewall protection, like the KO2. I play on the sharp volcanic rocks in and tight trails of the PNW where sidewalls are tested and have not had a problem. If you buy a tire that is known for weak sidewalls, like the Duratrac then maybe more cause for concern. But I see drastically more posts of "How do I get better MPGs after my lift/tires?" or "How do I get power back after my lift/tires?" or "My ride is stiffer after my lift/tires" than I do "My tire specifically designed for aired down off-roading with reinforced sidewalls has had a sidewall failure."

    If he wants to throw money away and doesn't care, he can at least be making an informed decision.
     
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    Really?

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    I won't tell the truck if you don't.
     
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    I have the E rated KO2s and they can take one hell of a beating. If you tow or wheel regularly I recommend them. If you're mostly street driving then C rated is probably fine
     
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    Yes. Really.

    The Tacoma is rated at 6500lbs towing. Meaning 90% of the load is carried by trailer axle and only 650lbs is carried by tongue weight of the truck. Combined with maximum GVWR over the rear axle comes no-where near remotely close to the capacity of C-load tires. I could spell out the math of trying to exceed nearly 5000lbs C-load rating over the rear axle if necessary, but that is greater than the curb weight of the entire vehicle, over one axle.

    Just because you can physically pull something forward does not mean the truck is qualified to tow a load. Exceeding the manufactures tow rating is unsafe and illegal as the vehicle as certified by the manufacture is unable to control the load. To spell this out explicitly means that the truck is unable to safely control and brake the load on the street. Meaning the load will start to control the truck.

    There is ZERO argument you can make for exceeding the manufactures tow rating of a vehicle, especially while running oversized tires which further reduce braking and control of a tow load.

    Edit: I should add that I would not classify pulling a utility trailer around a private property as towing in reference to the guidelines above.
     
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    $915 OTD installed for 4x 265/70/17C at costco
     
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  17. Oct 12, 2016 at 11:20 AM
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    I buy E load because I can. You buy C load because you can. It's your money, do whatever you want.
     
  18. Oct 13, 2016 at 6:38 AM
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    I thought Costco doesn't install non OEM sized tires?
     
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    Not sure of that= I've heard they do, and don't. Does anyone know this for sure? They offer 285s also I'm not sure what truck runs those oem, or if that matters.. I priced these on the 'net for a potential purchase.
     
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    The local Discount Tire advertises they beat Costco prices. I've taken quotes in from other places and had them beat the price as well. They would rather sell the tires to you at cost and get the credit for moving store volume than have you bring tires you bought elsewhere and have them mount them.
     

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