101 Atheist Quotes

Any time anyone says they pray for me, I want to kick them in their self-centered, self-righteous nuts. Get your belief system off of me. I don't go around telling you to kick your Jesus habit, so butt the fuck out and keep it to yourself.

 

Lol

 

Subd

 

Are you saying that one cannot believe both in God, and accept scientific discoveries? Or am I misunderstanding you?

I don't think the argument of intelligent design means to imply that absolutely nothing happens by chance or without control. It's more like the belief that of every instance, action, and result in the universe, not all of them happened by chance.

Misrepresenting the argument in that manner leaves the opportunity to simply show anything that has happened by chance, thus "disproving" the argument.

What made you come up with this 99/1 split? I'm not sure what you're meaning here but I'm interested.

Although I'm not an atheist, I do agree with you that it needs to be socially acceptable. We can't live in a society where nothing can be questioned and no one can think differently. I can't say I'd expect much of a look when telling someone you're atheist, but that is just based on my experience. I'm in college, so A) Younger generation tends to be more open-minded and B)College itself is an open minded place. Inversely, I am also in the Bible belt, but even still, I feel most interactions on that topic are about as controversial as telling someone you don't like pets, or mayonnaise Maybe my religion is more lenient.

What are you referring to as modern religion? Who designed it and which one forbids questioning of validity? Sounds like a church I'd walk out of pretty quick.

 

Lol, he just want to hit on the tatoo and since wasnt possible he turn into a hater..lol

 

I have no reason to think a thread of religious quotes would be banned. For what reason? It probably wouldn't receive the same traffic because it wouldn't be as controversial. It would honestly be closer to the norm. I don't see a lot of disrespect in this thread, though the tone gets a little less desirable over the last few pages.

I think it's important to carefully analyze what you're getting into then, when choosing a religion, belief system, or lack of. I'm not sure who you're referring to, but I would not look to a group of people unwilling to embrace new ideas as the representation of an entire belief. Sure, there are lots of close-minded people or people who dislike change, or people who just flat out fear the unknown. Those people don't affect my personal belief or relationship with God, existing or non.

I like seeing your posts in this thread, come around more often! I don't have any quarrel with most beliefs, but one thing that has always irked me is the idea of "science vs religion" or "science vs God". Why is it that to believe the universe was created is to deny science? The problem with this mindset is that science is not something you can choose whether or not to believe in. Science is something that exists and is based on factual evidence and produces consistent results that are repeatable. Given this, it's actually very convenient to pose it against the religion debate, because there's no way to deny it. This results in the misconception that to believe in a God must be to disregard science, which instantly ends the argument without question. When discussing this, many people bring up things such as the "God of the gaps" or Pascal's Wager, two things that I have never seen anyone base their belief off of or confidently use as an argument in the real world. Picking these two arguments to point out produces a straw man that insinuates all those who believe in a God must subscribe to such crude reasoning. My point is, some of these arguments aren't practical or very fair, but they draw a large share of the attention in the argument.

Now that's not to say that no one disregards science and no one uses those arguments. I just simply don't prefer them, and I don't think those who stop the questioning so short are being fully honest with themselves.

I think I'm misunderstanding here, because that sounds awfully black-and-white. Are you saying that learning and believing in a higher power are two exclusive paths?

I'd like to help out the guy who was asking about conscience. I do not think the (proper) argument is that religion instills morals in us. Similarly, I don't think you meant to imply that those laws instill morals in us either, so we shouldn't assume so on the religious side either. Rather, in both instances, the morals were already there. So what he's really asking, I think, is why do we inherently have morals? And I don't mean in contrast to any other species - they're not part of the equation. What gave us the inclination to create those laws? We are driven by more than just an instinctual "survival" sense. Many laws we make have nothing to do with survival, but plain right and wrong. The fact is, we don't even need these laws, because our conscience already tells us not to hurt, steal, or murder, no matter what we think or believe about the universe and its inhabitants. The laws are there in place to ensure everyone listens to that conscience and to protect those of us who do, from those of us who don't, for whatever reason they may have.

I agree in the fact that unconditional morals do make someone "good" and has nothing to do with belief. I think the fact that everyone, regardless of belief, already has these morals supports what I'm trying to say. I was not going to bring up the moralistic argument, but it claims that humans naturally have this set of laws to guide us as support for a universal creator.

In my opinion, an actual religion giving someone their morals would actually be more supportive of the possibility that religion is nothing more than a human construct. This is why I don't like the arguments like "Atheists don't have morals" or "I don't need a religion for morals". These arguments should flip sides!

Could it be something simply in our DNA? Yes. Would that make the point any less valid? I don't believe so, but that is the common "God of the gaps" response I suppose. As I have stated earlier in this thread, I don't think that simply discovering the method by which an event occurs rules out divine intervention.

I don't recall reading where God controls our lives or environment. It's agreeable that there is no proof either way, but I would not say there are no arguments. In this thread, we've seen the argument of suffering.
I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the Big Bang Theory? I was under the impression that this was a solid explanation of the current state of the universe.

We can get into a very long discussion about suffering on Earth. In short, and not that I'm advocating infant deaths, but what would be the point in creating a world only to completely control it and where challenges and adversity don't exist? If there is a God, an afterlife, and a heaven, what is the significance of worldly suffering? What would be the impact of a 0-100 year old life on eternity? Would it be more like a drop of water in a bucket, or into an ocean? Considering the nature of infinity, it would be even less significant than that. I'm speaking in terms of time alone, and I digress before getting into the actual impact that suffering has on lives before death.

He poses a good argument, frankly there are not many answers to it. What I wrote above is just one argument to suffering, there are a couple more that would take us into a really long discussion. After watching that video, I clicked Russel Brand's response, which was critiqued by the same guy. I like the things Russel was saying, and although the host had some good points, I feel he was harshly misrepresenting a few things.

This is one of the things I admire about Catholicism. It's vital to teach the students about the faith around that age in order to understand why we do the things we do, in and out of mass. I can't speak for every church, but we have had multiple students decide it wasn't for them after finishing their education and they were not met with negative response or hell-threats.

Fix your squat form and your knees won't hurt!

I don't believe it's either of those answers, though mysterious doesn't seem inaccurate. This is one of the cases where I differ from many of the religious, and that's the case that no, I don't believe someone gets sent to hell for things like that. Considering the personal aspect of a relationship with Christ and God, I don't think someone can just have pulled the wrong ticket. That doesn't sound like unconditional love.

How many people have posed this argument to you? It's deluded. Probability is not the reason to choose a belief. As far as the "fatal flaw":

If there were another God and afterlife unlike Pascal's religion, one's "odds" would still be in favor to choose at least one. Let's apply this to what we love to compare religion to, science. If I told you you could take a .00001% chance at a positive outcome or no chance at all, I am positive you would choose option A every time, because it simply makes the most sense. I say positive outcome because that example is so universal. You can replace it with anything from receiving money to saving someone's life.

That being said, I just wanted to point out the "fatal flaw's" flaws. Even given the statistical advantage of that argument, I still don't prefer it. Choose what you believe based on more than odds.

I'm not a fan of anyone telling someone else where they're going or why. Like many have stated here, no one can know, and if it turns out that hell is an option, it's damn sure not up to anybody here. Not their business either, really. Are you saying that to believe in God is to abandon a logical point of view?

Again - can't stand hearing someone sentence another to hell. It's never made sense to me. Congrats on the tattoo!

 

Do you mean, when someone says they pray for you in a condescending/judgmental way, or when someone offers that as a consolation to you during hardship?

 

If prayer is real, is it no less effective if it's not mentioned? If that religious person simply says, I'm sorry for pain and privately prayed instead of saying they will. Would it not still work?

 

Just out of curiosity, why would you be offended/mad when they say they will pray for you? If you do not believe in it, it can't do you any harm. They don't push their religion on you by praying for you. I guess I just see it a little different. I appreciate them caring enough about me in that particular situation that they feel the need to pray for me. I would rather thank them for caring. Would do the same if they offer to meditate on it or send good vibes or whatever religion/believe they have/do to show they care about my situation.
Again, just curious about the response...just a friendly question.

 

They want to show sincere care about your situation, and to them it is the ultimate level of showing that. It means more than just saying "shame, I feel for your situation".
At least that's how I see it.

 

Thant's not how I see it. It's like a vegan telling me they are vegan. Who cares? Go be vegan in the corner and if I ask you how come you're farts smell so bad then you can tell me why.

 

Always baffled by someone praying for you, or asking for prayers when someone has cancer or something else bad. Prayer chains and all of that.
Is there a minimum quota of prayers required for God to do something?

 

Fuck this thread

 

half of this life in south America army soldier and another half in north of America, studied Theology , physical education, HR and industrial relations, many engineers and educated people here (Atheist) sharing opinions, that my 1/2 limited grammar bothers you ? sure... oh well " Thanks God I'm atheist". Tolerance and acceptance is quite of important to co-exist in peace.

Now some of the experiences are eye opener for many to stop following traditional believes and scriptures and books ... Sure ! valid point that is why to refer to the 101 QUOTES at page 1st of this thread is EYE OPENER.

Common denominators are important ....like i.e. most of us like PEACE , HAPPINESS and PROSPERITY , some can say naahhh , not interesting , sure, carry on . I like the education of Brahma Kumaris, www.bkwsu.org.... yes, it works for me at least, wish it works for you too, but like in diets , fitness plans, ways to make a living , personalities, music ( not a single like to the song below?) etc... cars or trucks, , we can't judge or imposs others what to likes or dislike, we drive what we like..... TACOMA !!!!!! YES !!!!.... HAPPY FRIDAY TO ALL



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcwyyFOeu5E

 

x2

 

Prayer has always baffled me. Even when I was Christian that went to church every Sunday. If Gods will is to pan out, why pray about it? Or can anyone with a $5 prayer book come and fuck up Gods plan.....And yes, I stole that from George Carlin.

 

Any time at all for any purpose. I find it utterly offensive and arrogant. It means they are bearing down their entire belief system on my existence because they think I need the assistance of their special flying spaghetti monster to "help me" through whatever they perceive as a need. It means they don't know, nor do they care, about who I really am. This means that their act of prayer "for me" is a lie, and it is purely selfish, because it is gratifying only for themselves as they think their build up Likes from their god so they get hit by a bus or murdered, they'll get a window seat in their perceived Final Disneyland.

 

@gprice

was that him?

 

This thread is fun.

There's no way to siphon through all the bs.

If you're an atheist (like me) it's pretty easy to keep to your self and not press beliefs on others. I was raised in a very religious family and in my early teens decided that following god in any path was not for me. Let's just call it personal experience.

However, I don't feel like people of faith are uneducated or at a disadvantage. Different strokes for different folks, amiright?

I don't understand why it's so important that we prove one group or another right or wrong. We're all going to die at some point, let's just figure it out then.

Until then though, don't be a dick, don't kill people that don't agree with you, and life goes on. Why is that such a hard concept?