886 OME Coils with Top Plate Spacers

Been getting ready to lift my truck by doing some research and struggled finding too much on this. I am double cab short bed with an aftermarket bumper that was hoping to get 3" of lift. Was wondering would the 886 coils with top plate spacers get me the full 3"? Also, if so, would my CV's be at too harsh of an angle. I've read a lot of guys running 886's with top plates on stock bumpers saying they ripped CV boots because of the spacers. Thought my extra 200+ lbs from the Road Armor stealth bumper would weigh enough to not create this problem. Thanks!

 

Update:

Just ordered the kit with the top plate spacers. Will post pics of how it comes out and the cv angles for all interested.

 

What size spacers did you get? I have 886's also with plate bumper and back is higher than the front.

 

Should be 1/2in spacers because they are rated at 3/4 in of lift.

 

Where you get them from you have a part number by any chance?

 

They were bought through Toytec Lifts and its part TOPT-1.

 

I have 886's and a plate bumper with winch and IFS skid. More than 200# total, actually closer to 300#. Spacers are not needed. I only did the 1/4" spacer on the driver's side to fix the taco lean, and that's it. I have just shy of 3" of lift in the front, and I'm level with the rear where I have an AAL only. But I have a plate steel rear bumper and bed rack.

I think you'll be too high with 1/2" spacers. That's 1" of lift on top of the at least 2.5 from the 886's. You're going to be straining your CV's. Also, you'll need aftermarket UCA's for sure because it will never align with that geometry.

 

Alright, thanks for the advice. Hopefully I can change that order around a little bit then. I figured the 886 would get the kind of lift I wanted but that's always a hit or miss kind of thing with so many factors that can change. Glad to find someone finally running the 886s, that was a struggle in itself! I'll have to see about the UCA's however. They're a little pricey and I've heard many running stock UCA's and being at least close enough to spec ranges that it's alright.

 

Guaranteed your caster will be off. You will be able to see it, even when the alignment shop maxes out the adjustments as far as they can go. You'll get a lot of wandering on the road, and uneven tire wear. I wouldn't drive it that way for too long. Just because guys run factory UCA's on this type of setup doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

 

Alright well I appreciate the heads up. Will probably wait to see how far it's off when I get it all installed and decide from there so I'm not running it for too long. I take it you are running aftermarket UCA's? Mind me asking what brand and how they have been holding up? I've heard good stuff about Total Chaos but unfortunately you pay for it.

 

When I installed my 886's they put the trim packer for the lean not the 1/4 spacer. So I wonder if I put 1/4 spacers it will bring me close to the 3".

 

I believe the trim packer is 10mm (if you're running OME shocks), which is .4".

1/4" spacers equal 1/2" of lift but loss of 1/4" uptravel. Always try to avoid using spacers when possible (trim packer does the same thing as a spacer, just in a different spot on the shock - both preload the spring)

 

Uhh no. If this was true your shock would have to be the thing limiting up travel. Your bumpstop does this. OME shocks still have about an inch of uptravel AFTER the bump stop is contacted.

 

Uhhh, no. If you have an extra 1/4" of steel above or below the coil, you're adding a 1/4" limitation to uptravel. The spring now has 1/4" less of space to compress. Our trucks don't take spacers outside of the coilover (on the fronts), but inside of it above or below the spring.

 

If you add spacers you actually about twice that amount of uptravel. I am telling you, the shock or spring is not what limits up travel. It is the bump stop. If you raise the truck with a spacer then you are further from the bump stop so you can go further up. This is true until you push the shock down so far that it is what stops uptravel before contacting the bump stop. In this case the shock breaks.

 

Also, even if you thought it worked that way the ratio of motion from the shock vs the wheel is 1/2. The wheel moves 2x further than the shock does, roughly. So if you thought 1/4 spacer like this would change your travel 1/4 inch it would actually be more like 1/2 inch. I don't want to be a dick or anything but you don't seem to understand all of the factors at play here.

 

Seriously, ask any other suspension expert on here and maybe they can describe in your language how spacers limit your uptravel. I apparently can't describe it properly to you so you understand the mechanics of suspensions.

 

Maybe this will help... an article from www.fourwheeler.com:

Potential decrease in travel: You are adding a block (spacer) in between upper and lower spring pads—a space shared with the coil springs. If you add a 2-inch spacer without somehow adding 2 inches of droop to your suspension (maybe longer shocks and sway bar links), then you’ve effectively reduced your available collapsed length between the spring pads by 2 inches. If your coil comes close to completely collapsed at full compression, then this might limit up travel.

You will never gain uptravel from having spacers, at least not in our truck's suspension setup. Adding fixed blocks/spacers in the same area that the spring used to be seated by itself, puts preload on the spring and adds X amount of block to the uptravel. Like they stated above, if you don't change your suspension droop, you'll top out on the suspension sooner. Or, if you don't put longer shocks in, you'll bottom them out and blow the shock.

 

I'm sorry but you really arn't right and being stuborn doesn't make you any more right. You don't understand everything at play here. If you want to thinking what you do, it makes no difference to me. I am not typing all this just to say your wrong but to help inform you.

 

Maybe you're doing a different setup than the standard. Your profile says OME lift, so I assumed it was the usual spacer that slides onto the shock before the bottom coil perch.

Seriously, if you're doubting me here.. just ask a vendor or someone you trust that has just as many if not more years of experience with coilover suspensions as I do. And not just one of your bros. Better to confirm than to assume you know all of the answers.

Otherwise, be on your way and good luck. When you bottom out on a whoop really hard and snap your shock, don't come crying to me.