Later model 2nd gen frames

Ya I dunno my '11 looks good and I live in winter salt infested NE Ohio.

 

At least it's good to know that many with later models are not seeing their frames disintegrate. Yet.

 

My 09 looks very good just outside of Buffalo, New York. The side rails are perfect and its more about the window well areas and areas which get nicked up on the underside of the frame due to road debris. I have had it 'Carwell' (oil based rustproofing similar to Krown) treated until they switched to a Krown franchise, and haven't missed a fall. I also buy a few extra cans of the stuff for under $20.00 for touch ups in the high traffic areas, such as wheel wells, as i feel is necessary.

A step which i think has been the biggest factor is that i use a product called Corroseal, (don't hold me to the correct spelling) which Home Depot has on-line and can ship to store. Inexpensive, does a great job converting the rust spots that are always going to show up in weld areas or wherever. Turns them black and stops the rust. I do this annually prior to the next Krown application. I also do not or would not use a wire bruch, as that seems illogical if i have been on the job with this since i purchased the truck new, and so rust never gets a strong foothold. Adding to teh vulnerability by purposely removing factory finished makes little sense to unless you are not the origional owner and/or have been slack and it has gotten away from you. I'm pretty sure that the Corroseal instructions suggest simplly removing loose materials before applying anyway, so id do that with a rag and hand dry scrub and clean in the spot areas before applying.

Very good results in an area as strongly salt challenged as any. Not into figuring out how to insert photos due to a lack of patience for that stuff, '(instructions') when not working, though would be happy to take a bunch today and email them to someone else is welcome to apply them here if anyone wants to get a further perspective / evidence, whatever before trying this approach yourselves. PM if interested.
Also, i paid under 20.00 for a pint of that Corroseal after a lot of research, and could be happier. Used about 4/5 ths of the pint after about 5 winters since i started using it.

 

86,000 kms on my 2010. Mostly highway usage. Has surface rust on frame. I clean this truck more than any other vehicle I have owned but none of those had frame rust with similar mileage driven. They were a couple Hondas, a Jeep Cherokee, and a Xterra. Not impressed.

I would laugh my a$$ off if the 3rd gens start rusting. Actually, I wouldn't. I would feel bad for the owners and liklely never buy another Tacoma again.

 

Not sure what to say about this. My 2010 has rust and I have to say I take way better care of my truck, which includes washing, than my 2 Hondas, Jeep and Xterra before it with similar mileage on them. Never saw any rust on those frames (surface or otherwise), but my Tacoma thats another matter.

 

I think you guys are kidding yourselves if you think the 10+ models are better.

Many went through this with the 96-04 Tacomas. At first the recall was 96-01, so people with 01+ trucks thought they to had a better frame. Until they started having issues and included the 01-04's.

And now look at it, there is now issues with 05+.

I thought the same thing, I went from a 96 to a 2008 thinking that after 13 years, a redesign, 3 years of the new model, and spending a fortune on buy backs Toyota would learn how to make a frame at least as good as there pre 95 trucks (not to mention decent leaf springs and clutch release bearings) but I was proven wrong. 13 + years later and the same problems continue.

Keep in mind that the frame issue isn't even limited to the Tacoma.

I too was able to kid myself about my 2008 as the frame actually looked decent when I got rid of it in 2014 especially after Toyota covered all the rust with there own coating.

Shawn.

 

Find me a 10+ Tacoma that needed a frame replacement. I'd be shocked. If it's the same frames it would clearly start showing its ugly face by now. Actually I think the recall is just 05-08's. I'm not even sure how that would work even if it was elidgeable.

 

my 09 has a rust free frame. Salt air is not enough to rust these.

 

It's the people that live in harsh northern climates that truly can comment on the frames. If a frame can make it in the north east of Canada, it can make it anywhere. It's comments from people living here, and comparing their frames to those of other manufacturers frames that hold weight.

For example I had a 5 year old Mazda 3, the rear quarter panels rotted out and needed repair under warranty. Now I know these cars had issues, but I highly doubt one from Florida or Ohio would have this issue after only 5 years.

My opinions of course.

 

There are reports of 2010+ Tacoma's AND 4-Runners who would, pending Toyotas approval, be eligible for frame replacements. We were actually told out in the shop to start keeping a closer eye on them and to report anything we saw out of the ordinary. I think Toyota expects there to be a problem with them, but IMO there's no doubt that the newer frames were coated a little better than the 05-09 frames.

 

2014 checking in.

I have rust on other things (surface) but nothing on my frame.

Even on the ac drain (which I still need to put the extension on)

 

Got my 2011 undercoated by a good place when I bought it New. Finally this year I went under and buffed cleaned and repained a few spots but it all looks good. Then covered it with fluid film and it's nice and ready for winter

 

Sorry. We will remember to get your permission to add to any conversation in the future.

 

For the record, our local dealership is NOT in an area that I would consider to have a harsh winter climate. We are in Southern, IN and saw some HUGE holes in a whole bunch of frames.

 

And yes I live in Eastern Canada, at a point where I can walk a couple mins and throw a rock into the atlantic ocean....so Im in a bad area

 

Doesn't the majority of the rust damage occur from the inside out, in the boxed section of the frame? I'm not sure it would help to hose off the outside of the frame all the time, in the winter or any other time of year. The owners manual even says not to attempt to spray water in the boxed sections as there is a better chance of promoting rust than preventing it. I go to Krown once a year and that's all the frame maintenance I'll be doing. Im not worried about the appearance of the outside of my frame. There were first gens that had frames that looked pretty good on the outside, but you could still jam a screwdriver through them.

 

That's a good idea but the welds and putter frame can start to rust pretty quick if not looked at. Also two years ago we had 5-6 flash freezes
one after another and most trucks had ice caked up underneath them for weeeks waiting to melt. If your really coated with undercoating and or fluid film the ice does not want to stick. Was a big problem with some trucks around here because it was bad

 

What fun would that be? Who doesnt enjoy reading the same old dozens of rust threads and fluid film applications.

This whole rust thing was and is blown out of proportion for cars older then 2010.

I see jeeps and F150s with worst rust then most of the Tacomas I see on the road.

I live in NY, rust belt central. Dont waste my time nor money with fluid film or other coatings, just a rinse every now and then ( and I dont bother washing the truck in the winter either). During the summer I go to the beach and fish with the truck and and live 10 miles from the coast.... ZERO rust ( some surface on bolts which is normal).

 

Your not to aware of NE Ohio's winter's then...Look up lake effect snow.

 

Any northern states that use salt on the roads are going to be at more risk. Ohio Pa, Md are still northern states in terms of winter salty roads. Florida may not have the winters, but they have humid salt air, and that xan have an affect. Any of the eastern coast humid areas are highly prone to salt damage. Metal doesn't last long in those areas. I stay down in hatteras NC a couple weeks every summer, and my truck looks just about the same as when I just drove on a wet salty road in the winter.