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Gas siphoning

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by HawkShot99, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. Nov 2, 2016 at 10:02 AM
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    HawkShot99

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    Is it possible to siphon gas out of the tank of my Tacoma? I do it every fall to my motorcycle and mowers no problem but they have a big open filler neck.

    I think I may have gotten some bad gas, as my mileage is plummeting for no reason on this tank of gas. I'd like to siphon it out into jugs and refill. Not sure if the neck truly prevents this or what but I couldn't get a hose down into the tank.
     
  2. Nov 2, 2016 at 10:06 AM
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    I think you can get a hose down it. Not sure you want to. Not sure about the Tacoma design but I have seen fuel gauge senders messed up by siphoning. If it is just MPGs and not performance then throw some additive in there and tough it out.
     
  3. Nov 2, 2016 at 10:10 AM
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    could just be the switch to winter fuel, or depending on how many miles you have, have you changed your plugs etc...
     
  4. Nov 2, 2016 at 10:11 AM
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    Winter fuel????? That's funny!
     
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    Summer blend gasoline is more difficult to produce than winter blend gasoline, which is why gas prices tend to rise along with the temperatures. But in the winter, when evaporation is less of a concern, gasoline is made with a higher Reid Vapor Pressure
     
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    Never heard that one before
     
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    Winter gas typically yields lower MPG's. I went from averaging 21-22 MPG's to 18-19 MPG's on one tank when the local station got their delivery of winter gas.
     
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    colder air temps will drop the mpgs as much as the fuel. In DFW I notice a slight drop when they switch over but it drops a lot more when we have a cold snap. In this area we can be in 60s one week and 20s the next during winter.
     
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    wait, "so I'm getting bad gas mileage with this gas so I'm going to take it out (giving you 0 mpg for every gallon, which you have already paid for, you remove btw), buy more gas and replace it" I don't see how this would help anything.
     
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    Fucking look it up
    Not possible to siphon gas unless you pull the tank and rip out the fuel filter. There are antisiphon valves in each new vehicle to avoid spillage in a roll over
     
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    Yep, i have always believed that temperature difference was the reason for poorer mpg in winter.

    It takes more energy to combust gas at 10 degrees F. Than it takes to combust gas at 80 degrees F.
     
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    also to keep things a nice 14.7:1 afr, considering colder air is denser it requires more fuel for the amount of air you are putting in during cold temps.
     
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    Most gas thieves just punch a hole in the tank and drain into an oil drain pan.

    It's quiet, and they don't have to wait around for the gas can to fill. They just come back later when the cost is clear.
     
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    haha I was thinking the same thing. He's losing even more money but not using the gas he paid for at all. Just burn off this tank and use a different gas station.
     
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    True, but my local station switched to winter gas maybe 3 weeks ago and our temps were in the 60's & 70's still at that point, but I still lost the MPG's. My route and driving habits haven't changed.
    I actually noticed the difference as soon as I tanked up, because I have the instant mileage readout on the truck and run the same route every morning, and when I got onto the highway and set my cruise I was averaging about 2mpg's less at the same speed and similar temperature. :notsure:
     
  17. Nov 2, 2016 at 10:35 AM
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    I have not driven at all this tank different than any of my past tanks.
    If I got watery gas I'd preference to not send that through my engine. it's not so much about the lost mpg's they are just the visible sign. I'd prefer to not damage a engine with water gas.
     
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    does it drive differently? as in acceleration or just an overall lack of power at any given rpm? water and gas don't mix, so if you have "watery gas" it would actually be the you have water under the gas in your tank. now some of both could get into the pump and into the injectors if the levels were right but you would definitely notice a change in drivability. and if that is the case just adding better gas wont solve this problem as the water will always be in the tank until you drain it completely (or run it dry which wouldn't turn out well) could there be a chance that maybe you put e-85 in your tank, that would lead to about a 35-40% lower mpg.
     
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    I'd would take a look at your air filter, MAF sensor and plugs before going through the trouble of trying to siphon gas
     
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    Youve also claimed changing diff fluid is a waste of money. lol
     
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