Manual transmission Fan Club and BS thread (All Generations Welcome)

That is because in the yellow highlighted line "Hill Start Assist Control (HAC)30 (A/T only)" in that first picture the A/T stands for Automatic Transmission.

There is no HAC on my manual. That is what the easily accessible hand brake lever is for.

 

Picked mine up last night!

 

Cool. It seems the TRD ORs in particular are the ones without it. The Toyota literature isn't 100% accurate I don't think because it sounds like the TRD Sport MT owners do indeed have it and furthermore the TRD OR AT owners have a gimped version of it but it does not operate the same way as the other trims. My guess is the brake booster and the ORs brake modulation abilities are why they are different than other trims.

I too just use the handbrake. Thankfull it is a handbrake and not a locking foot "ebrake". However, I have driven a manual Jeep JK with the hill start assist feature and it is quite nifty if im being honest.

 

What's this chirping you speak of. I'm starting to hear a noise when I let out the clutch sometimes. 25k miles on my 2016 is it something to get looked at before my warranty expires?

 

The throwout bearing 'chirps' and sounds just like crickets when it's going bad. The sound is most audible when coasting in gear, and it goes away completely with any amount of pressure applied to the clutch pedal.

It was a common problem with manuals in the first and 2nd gens. My last one was chirping for a few months before I got it replaced, so it's not necessarily an urgent issue if you're hearing it. The louder it is the worse it is. If the TOB fails completely though you won't be able to shift gears and it could cause damage

 

See http://www.toyota.com/tacoma/#!/features/off-road-capability/hill-start-assist-control

 

I think the idea is that clutch start cancel replaces HAC on the OR 6MT.

 

Clutch start cancel isn't for starting on hill on my truck, it allows the starter motor to crank without pushing in the clutch. This allows you to get out of a difficult situation using the starter motor to move the truck without the engine running. I've never done this, I've heard of people doing it.

 

It's also awesome for starting the truck without climbing in, like when changing the oil or warming the cabin while shoveling the driveway.

 

It'd work for that too.

 

It strikes me as a really good way to blow your starter using it to drive the entire rotating assembly and move the vehicle.

 

Have used it many times in all of my Toyota trucks and my FJ60 never had any issues with the starter. Hell my 1985 still has the original stater on it with 1.2 mil on the clock.

 

Well... I stand corrected.

 

I rarely use it because I'm afraid of the strain it puts on the starter lol. I know I know, it was designed to work that way. I do like knowing it's there though if I need it in a tricky spot. I've been on a few offroad where it came in handy, on a really steep incline with loose rock where you don't want to risk having to relying entirely on your brakes while you start the truck, or deal with the inevitable roll back.

 

It's for when you're on the edge of a cliff when wheeling and you stall it out in a bad spot and need to either reverse or go forward instantly; when inches are all that stand between you and tumbling down a thousand feet. At that point I don't care about wearing out the starter. Better the starter then rolling the truck over the cliff!

 

1.2 million? nicely done.

 

Nope, nope, nope. I've even done a calc with my calculator, I come out better then, but have not used it lately. I'm in Kalifornia, we aren't metric yet, thanks to Donald. Today, I went out of town again, this time to get a second set of stock wheels to be able to do a winter or summer change over. I drove round trip, 322 miles, down Interstate 80, then back up it. Got into town, 24.4 MPG per the dash. I drove maybe 150 miles at 58 mph, then most of the rest at 67-68 mph, very little city time getting to the location where the wheels were. I'll have to gas it up fully and see what it comes out to using a calculator.
Duane

 

Got me going, so looked this up. From the Wiki place.
The gallon (/ˈɡælən/) is a unit of measurement for liquid capacity in both the US customary units and the British imperial systems of measurement. Three significantly different sizes are in current use: the imperial gallon defined as 7000454609000000000♠4.54609 litres, which is used in the United Kingdom, Canada, and some Caribbean nations; the US gallon defined as 231 cubic inches (3.785 l), which is used in the US and some Latin American and Caribbean countries; and the least-used US dry gallon defined as 1⁄8 US bushel (4.405 l).
While there is no official symbol for the gallon (as there are for SI units), gal is in common use.

 

It's for short distance only, getting out of a bind. My brother moved his car from the street into a gas station with the starter once when he ran out of gas, didn't appear to hurt it. It doesn't seem like a good idea however.