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Toyota Tacoma September Sales – 15,723, Up 35.4 Percent

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  1. Nov 18, 2016 at 10:51 AM
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    You pay $35k for a Tacoma or you pay $35k for a Tundra, with the market segment of midsize trucks what it is, it's a niche in and of itself. You're buying less capability and less space, without a doubt.. but you're paying a premium for the product. A full size truck doesn't command that premium outside of it's own niche markets (like the Raptor and other similar models). It's no longer a buy a full size or buy a cheaper truck.

    It's buy a full size, or buy a smaller truck.
     
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    Facts tend to do that to people :)
     
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    Well this article opens the spectrum up. We are talking trucks primarily. But we jumped into manufacturers and that article threw a monkey wrench into the whole discussion.
     
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    The 2016 Cars.com American-Made Index
    By Kelsey Mays

    June 28, 2016


    Read more at https://www.cars.com/articles/the-2...made-index-1420684865874/#tmiGmo8qulYu5MOb.99

    The Toyota Camry topped the American-Made Index for the second consecutive year, while the No. 2 Honda Accord and No. 5 Honda Pilot returned to the index for the first time since 2012. Also back are five AMI regulars: the Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey and GM's Michigan-built crossovers — the Chevrolet Traverse, GMC Acadia and Buick Enclave. (GM will assemble the redesigned 2017 Acadia in Tennessee, not Michigan, but it wasn't yet on sale during the period covered here, which is Jan. 1 to May 31.)



    1. Toyota Camry

    2. Honda Accord

    3. Toyota Sienna

    4. Honda Odyssey

    5. Honda Pilot

    6. Chevrolet Traverse

    7. GMC Acadia

    8. Buick Enclave

    After reaching an all-time low of just seven cars in 2015, the AMI is up to eight cars. That's still lower than earlier AMIs, when the index regularly hit its 10-car limit, with dozens of models qualifying as recently as 2011.

    In a testament to the auto industry's globalization, that list of AMI-eligible cars has dwindled in recent years even as total U.S. light-vehicle production has increased.


    Read more at https://www.cars.com/articles/the-2...made-index-1420684865874/#tmiGmo8qulYu5MOb.99

    In today's global economy, there's no easy way to determine just how American a car is. Cars.com's American-Made Index looks at cars on a model-by-model basis, not by manufacturer. It recognizes cars that are assembled here, using a high percentage of domestic parts, and which are bought in large numbers by American consumers.

    Five of this year's eight AMI cars are from foreign-based automakers; the last time a Detroit Three vehicle topped the AMI was in 2014, when the Ford F-150 pickup truck ranked No. 1. (This year's F-150, like many other vehicles, fell below the AMI's 75-percent eligibility threshold for domestic-parts content.) But in a year when auto manufacturing has been the subject of controversy on the presidential campaign trail, it's important to remember the AMI rates cars, not automakers.

    When it comes to the latter, the Detroit Three's economic impact in the U.S. is undeniable. The American Automotive Policy Council, a group that represents GM, Ford and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, claims its members employ more than two-thirds of all U.S. auto workers. The Detroit Three run 25 of the 42 U.S. assembly plants that build light-duty passenger cars bought in the U.S., according to Automotive News. The remaining 17 assembly plants come from nine other automakers: BMW, Honda, Hyundai-Kia, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Subaru, Tesla, Toyota and Volkswagen. All but Tesla are headquartered overseas.

    But foreign-based automakers contribute plenty. A 2015 study by the Center for Automotive Research, a Michigan-based nonprofit group, found the auto industry accounts for about 3 percent of all foreign direct investment in the U.S. — some $74 billion in total. In its December 2015 contributions report, the Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association said U.S. vehicle production from Japan-based automakers has climbed from 2.3 million cars in 1995 to more than 3.8 million in 2014. Production drives employment. Cars.com analyzed employment and production figures to see how many assembly-plant jobs each model supports; it’s the same analysis we did in last year’s AMI. The 2016 analysis shows one foreign-based automaker’s car — the Toyota Camry — still supports the most assembly-plant jobs of any AMI vehicle by a wide margin.


    Read more at https://www.cars.com/articles/the-2...made-index-1420684865874/#tmiGmo8qulYu5MOb.99
     
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    Not really. It would take Toyota at least a year to build a Tundra in the same plant as the Camry. If not two. If the law changes Ford is the front runner IN TRUCKS to profit from it.

    In cars Toyota may be. I haven't looked enough at their entire lineup. Most manufacturers though moved their car product to Mexico long ago. Cars have thinner margins.
     
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    Cars are pump and dump.

    Trucks fit into niche market, but it behooves manufacturers to cover their total sales by making trucks pump and dump as well.
     
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    Double fact check. My emotions can't take this! Lol
     
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    C'mere..
     
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    Meh, all vehicles are pump and dump. Even Toyota does it to some extent now. That's why everyone wants in again on the midsizes. They are priced better, by percentage margin, than almost anything else for now until the manufactures beat up that market too.
     
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    GM is sitting back and counting their profits on the Tahoe/Suburban/Escalade. Surprised no other manufacturer has gotten into the Escalade ESV/Suburban market. Oh the profits..... more orgasmic than a porn stars
     
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    I agree. Times have changed and it used to not be this way.

    I do see the midsize market growing and that corporate America investors pushing short term sales for short term profits.

    The bubble will pop and eventually the balance will come back.
     
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    Because Excursion.
     
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    Stay at home wives who don't want "mini-vans" really push that market. They are a dime a dozen and usually not half bad looking! ;)
     
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    the profit margin on those... WOW
     

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