Buy from dealer or build

When these dealership offer you Invoice price, you might want to make a mental note to get the Out the Door price before you agree to the Invoice price.

A lot of dealership will add TDA/TAF/TMF fees (Dealer Advertisement Marketing Fees, or what ever they want to call it) to your invoice price. I had one dealership agree to $500 below Invoice price (using the Tacoma World price list) and then after they added the extra fees (TDA, Doc, Tire Recycle Fee, Gas, ect) the price ended up $1500 above invoice price. Obviously, I didn't buy from this dealer. Some of the fees are legit, but some are pure profit masked as required fees.

I've heard a few members on this forum getting Invoice price, but then pay a $200-$700 TDA fee or $500 doc fee. Some people pay the TDA some don't.

 

Nice! Definitely one of the cheapest I have seen in Oklahoma for an OR. Congrats! Now post those pics!

 

I am glad you brought this up as l was able to go look at the prior 2 trucks l purchased from my dealer and the only fee was $33 for the title. But looking at the loan papers from the bank i noticed a $250 loan documentation fee so that gives me something to haggle over on the new one.

 

I emailed 25 dealerships (internet sales departments) within 3-4 hours of me with the exact specifications I was looking for, as well as let them know that I was part of the Costco Auto Program ("invoice pricing"). I received responses immediately, but nobody had the exact truck I was looking for. So I ordered through the dealership that offered me the best price and was told yesterday that the build is scheduled for the last week of January. Paid a deposit of first month's payment and license tag fee to initiate the build.

If you are not in a rush, go the build route and get exactly what you want so you'll have no regrets.

 

The $250 "doc" fee is pretty damn near impossible to get dropped to my knowledge. I got every other fee dropped, but I couldn't get that one removed. I'd love to hear from someone that got it removed and what they said to get it dropped,

 

Just want to clarify, you can not factory order through Toyota unless you are a fleet customer. The orders you all have placed, your build is sent to Toyota and if there is a vehicle that matches your build that isnt already assigned to another customer at a different dealer, then that order gets routed to your dealer and you get the vehicle. If there are no current orders that match your specs, you get put on a waiting list until a vehicle pops up in the order bank that matches your specs.

Where as a fleet factory order, we place the order and it gets assigned a factory build date and we wait the normal allocated time. My factory ordered truck took 6 months while others that "ordered" their trucks only took 1-2 months because there were trucks already being built for dealers inventory and they were just rerouted.

Make sense?

 

You cannot negotiate Doc fee, each state has it own fee. I'm in CA and the doc fee, by law, it is maxed out at $80. But other states have higher fees, and other states don't even have limits. The doc fee can not be changed, but the dealer could lower your purchase price to make up for the difference.

One time I was going to purchase a vehicle out of state in Arizona and their Doc fee was $400. I tried to get them to lower it but they said they could not lower it, due to anti-discrimination laws (the dealership had to charge all their customers the same fee). What they ended up doing was lower the vehicle purchase price $320 to make it equal out to the $80 doc fee I would have paid in California.

 

Doc fee is not a required state fee, state only limits the amount like you said.

Some dealers I dont pay the Doc Fee, some dealers I do. It all depends on who you talk to but most dealers dont budge because its an easy (in CA) $80.

For example I dont pay the doc fee from my Arizona dealers ($150) but I do pay the $80 doc fee here in CA.

 

What I meant, was that the state can set a limit to what the dealers could charge on Doc fees.

 

Go somewhere else.

 

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