What is too much bass?

Right now I have a 10" alpine type r subwoofer in a custom enclosure between the rear seats and type r components in the front doors of my 13 access cab. It does its job really well but I'm thinking about upgrading.

I am thinking about a 12" SA Zv.5 to replace the 10" type r. That much I am sure about, however I have done a lot of custom work with wood and composite material in the past and am entertaining the idea of making something happen in the rear doors.

Here is where the title comes from. Would a ported 12" on 2000 watts AND a sealed ten in each door (most likely SA X series) be too much for an access cab? The sound quality side of me says yes but the bass head in me says go for it.

The other option would be two 10" Rockford punch pro mids in the same location. Anyone have any input on the idea?

 

So an SA or ZV5? Big difference.

Never mind. It doesn't matter. You can always turn it down...so no such thing as too much bass.

 

The zv5 is a sure thing in the form of a ported 12" in the middle of the rear seats. The question is about adding two sealed 10" x-series subs to the equation.

 

Never too much bass. I used to have a Kicker L5 15" in a 6 cu.ft ported box I made. It comes done to how much room you are willing to sacrifice and how loud you want to get it.

 

I wouldn't. You start looking at the potential for phase issues with different sub sizes and locations. Sundown does make those sweet 8" midbasses though.

 

My friend had 2 of those in the back of his 350Z.... he went through glass & seals like he did underpants. I had the 12" in my Ranger & that thing pushed the rear window seals out from around the glass a few times. Currently have the 8" square in my access cab, me wants more but don't want to give up seating space. Love the square air pumps!

Couldn't you play around with your HP/LP filters to help minimize the overlap so each sub is handling more of its own sweet spot?

OP: It's just time, space & money.... if you don't like for some reason it then sell the hardware and you're only out time & a bit of money. My biggest concern would be tuning them, but the potential is crazy here.

 

Too much Bass is when the rear window blows out of the cab...like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4PYI6TzqYk

 

I would think so as long as you weren't overlapping frequencies too badly...like cut the Sub at 60 and pick up the midbass at 80 or so. People do it in competition cars all day long. The issues happen when you try to use a bunch of different stuff and locations for the same frequencies.

 

Yeah, they move some air! I didn't have it in the truck for long because I needed the space back. But it was fun when people at a light are bumpin next to me and then I crank it up some. I have never messed with the 8" ones, are they worth while? I loved kicker CVR's and the L5/7 series. Good bang for the buck since you can wire them down to one ohm if you had the 2ohm.

 

OP, are you familiar with Stereo Integrity's subs? They're Sundown's next door neighbor (they share the same building)

HST 12 mkII



Or for those who truly can't enough bass - the 24 inch BHS from the same vendor

 

I don't know about 24", that thing looks pretty cool. I have a downfiring, forward ported 10" and it takes nothing away from seating room. I was looking at making the 12" be forward facing and ported up so that I could glass the shape to taper up to the speaker ring and down toward the back of the cab to 11.5" to fit between the rear seats like my current set up.

 

I laughed when I unboxed the L7 8" & thought "this is cute, no way". It's DVC 2 ohm, paired with an Alpine class D digital stable at 1 ohm, birth certificate says somewhere around 500 watts RMS bridged. Built a sealed box, about 1.25 cu. ft. to fit between the rear seats like a console. This thing will blur my vision & render mirrors useless. I'd love more but refuse to give up functionality of front or rear seats. Anyway

 

Apparently this is too much bass:

The largest subwoofer in the world?

The SUBWOOFER efficiency is 120dB/ 1 Watt/1 meter. So the need of external regulation to adapt to the remaining audio system. The total electrical capability of the 16 x 48 cm woofers is about 400 W peak power per woofer that means about 400 x 16 = 6400 W peak total (practically uselss). Each woofer features a 100 mm coil. The real maximum power fed to both subhorn measured with an oscilloscope at the highest musical peak was 6 watts per channel when a pair of tube amps were used to drive the 16 LAuras, while up to date the electric power can reach 60 watts per channel using the 4 x 50watts/ch BLU EYES amps. In this conditions, peak levels are much higher and undistorted than any live concert at all. Walls and ceiling seems to fall down, but fortunately don't. The sound pressure is concentrated at the listening point and stopped by a 2 meters high woolglass anechoic wall on the back of the listening position. We should remember that the total diaphragm surface of the woofers is 2.89 square meters (8.67 square feet) and with the drivers horn loaded (not direct radiating), distortion at 60 watts is practically negligible. If for instance the real maximum rated power (6400 watt) would be used the pressure level would reach 160 dB, but I wonder who could survive. Not even the house built in steel & concrete maybe would stand up.

 

You want big mid bass driver not a sub for mid bass activity. You should see our new 12s

 

I've been unhappy with my Boston SC60 6.5" midbass component speaker, that thing sounds like crap. But our door panels are also about as rigid as balsa wood, I've yet to put any mat down. Did that on my last truck, such a PITA and still flexed when midbass pumped. I wish there was an easy way to put some angle iron on the door to get it rigid.

@Bjp318 have you decided on those 10's in the back doors?

 

I have not ordered anything yet. I will probably get an amp for the rear midbass first and then purchase the drivers.

 

I have access to a variety of mid bass speakers but the reality is you need to deadener those doors. Seal those doors up so its a true IB setup. Toss some power on those mid bass drivers, cross them over 60hz. Toss a nice big sub in the back, give it some power and away you go! IF you like SQ but loud build a TL or 1/4 wave box. My trucks getting 4 of our New Hammer tech 2812s, 4 inch voice coil with huge xmax on 2 8.8k Soundigital amps. Dual Alts etc
A single one of these subs will daily all day long with 5-6kw of power. It was designed and built to ground and pound all day long. As for history of the our Hammer tech line.... its the subs used in the loudest EVER db drag certified score !