3rd Gen Performance upgrades

I am sure someone has posted this before, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Does anyone know if any company is or will make a hand held tuner for the 3rd Gen?
Some kind of tune to give it a bump in power. Also is there anyone making or going to make a supercharger or turbo for the 3rd Gen?

I know you cant have a turbo or supercharger without being able to tune the engine so that is why all the questions.

thanks for any info.

 

My buddy used something like a sprintbooster to improve the throttle response of his truck (chevy) and he loves it. Says it's pretty unbelievable and made quite a difference. Other than turbo/supercharger which they don't make yet your choices are limited.

Slightly larger diameter full exhaust, stainless of course, cam and chip tune if they make it, cam gear if they make it. Possibly better air intake....

 

yeah been looking into a exhaust and intake, thought about headers at first but then quickly learned this new engine does not have a normal exhaust manifold that you can get headers for.

I have been looking into the Lexus parts as well, did some research and the 3rd gen engine is basically the same engine lexus uses in their cars but wih a turbo. so I think a turbo would be possible if you could tune the engine. but everything I have been reading says the ECM is not hackable. not sure how true that is, but I haven't seen any tuning company release anything yet so maybe it really is that hard.

 

I can tell you that it would probably cost 5-6000 grand or more. I know from f
VW doing big turbo, injectors, maf, map, intake exhaust , intercooler blah blah blah on a car that cam turbo charged was 5k so I'm probably very conservative on 5-6k maybe 10. But the ecu can without a doubt be tuned!
The Lexus thing would require a lot of work! I don't know what they did to supercharge the older Tacomas. But what you speak would basically be a complete electronics and most hardware swap....big brain and cha Ching!

 

the older Tacoma's had a TRD supercharger out for them. If there's a tuner and tune out there for these 3rd gen's I would love to see it and see if its worth buying, like what kind out power is it allowing the engine to make, but from a ton of looking around I cant find anything besides the fake performance chips on ebay haha

 

URD just came out with a y pipe that drops the rear two cats. Pair that with an exhaust and you might gain a smidge. Probably nothing noticeable though. Getting rid of the front cats would be nice but not aware of any test pipes for the 3g taco atm and itd probably sound like poo at that point.

So far no turbos or superchargers to be heard of. Someone got a response from magnuson that they are working on one but it was vague at best. Wouldnt hold your breath.

People have gotten tunes from shops but its a matter of finding someone who knows how to get in a yota ecu. Its possible but not common knowledge at this point.

 

Check sprintbooster improves Dbw throttle response. I used to tune Euro cars with a guy I knew, had a falling out that's over. I have pretty good insight as what is need, possible and cost. The Lexus with the turbo, I don't know it, will DEFINETLY be tuned or already is. Tons of money to be made and also power. The Tacoma, I think I Said in a previous post 5-7 % gain, maybe. Would you pay 400-600 bux for that? And where they get you is the tune cost 600 bux plus they charge 1 hour labor.

 

yeah that's a good chunk of change for unnoticeable results. Wouldn't waste my money. with all the car manufacters out there making twin turbo'd v6's and making good power numbers you'd think someone would have been on the ball trying to make something for the Tacoma. I know the motor is plenty strong enough, and there are people out there that would pay to have a 350+HP Tacoma for ripping through the sand or entering a highway at speed. basically everyone wants more power haha....but not everyone wants a fullsize truck! like me I love my Tacoma with or without a ton of power, however if someone made something to up the HP then I am all for it.

 

Also, I dont think Toyota/Lexus is currently putting a turbo'd 2GR in anything. There is a supercharged 2GR in a couple Lotus' but its not exactly the same as the 2GR-FKS in the tacos.. it doesnt have D4S or the Atkinson cycle stuff

 

your right no turbo, just a superchager....the lexus is350 runs a 2gr-fse engine with supercharger. I know the Tacoma is a 2GR-FKS, but that kind of my question, are the two engines the same or at least similar...and if so then I'm surprised someone hasn't got their hands on that supercharger and tried to make it work on the Tacoma. If someone has the means to do so, that would be a good money maker, I'm sure they could sell plenty of them.

 

I dont mean to nitpick but i actually spent a good 15 minutes looking into this just now because i would be pretty excited about a supercharged IS from Lexus but im fairly certain that the only engines available for a 2017 IS are the new 2.0L turbo 4 or the 3.5L V6 naturally aspirated. That 3.5 is indeed a 2GR FSE which has D4S but no atkinson stuff.

Side note: it appears the IS300 comes with literally the same motor as the IS350 just detuned via the ecu. 306hp in the 350 and 255 in the 300... lol. Maybe theres more to it but thats what it looks like.

Back on topic i see your point about 2GRs already being supercharged and wanting someone to bring it to the 2GR-FKS but its worth noting that Toyota is responsible for the supercharged 2GR-FE thats in the Lotus' and the chances of them bringing that to the 2GR-FKS are very very slim. Different goals for different vehicles. Our best bet for a supercharger is gonna be ground up from an aftermarket company and unfortunately i think the chances of that actually happening are slim as well

 

The only gains you can get will come from losing weight.

 

doggman.....this is what I found,

https://www.go-parts.com/hks/hks-gt-supercharger-system-kits/12001at004/i-2019186.aspx

it says under the fitment chart that it is for the 2GRFSE, now I know there are probably differences in the engine tuning and all that, but I'd think it would at least bolt up or very close. So then all you'd need is someone to tune it and make it work. I am no engineer so I could just be dumb too haha

 

I wish it were that easy. You might could make that supercharger kit fit on a 2GR FKS if you pulled the motor but even then itd probably be a long shot. The two motors are built on the same block and probably share many of the same parts but its entirely possible they have things in different places to accomodate engine compartment restraints or whatever other reason the engineers came up with. The tuning would actually be the least of your worries because every aftermarket FI'd car should be dyno tuned which in general entails the same thing regardless of the motor.

 

I gotcha man. Well shit I hope someone does something one day, guess if there's enough demand someone will. which I think there is

 

It would be awesome to see one but I'm not holding my breath

 

Me either

 

Any further info on performance upgrades ? Took my Taco down to Pismo dudes, was having a hard time going up the hills because of power issues/:

 

@OVTune

 

Underneath all of it what you guys are missing is the engine key. The 2GR in the Lexi or Yota is still a 2GR. From there the difference is direct (D4) or D4-S which is a hybrid of direct and multi port FI. The Atkinson cycle is really nothing more than an ecu trick. It is still an Otto Cycle engine. As of 2018 the Tacoma and IS350 will share the same engine. There is a member here who has already begun writing tunes from a code that was leaked directly from Toyota. I'll see if I can find the post. As for the lack of performance parts it had more to due with Toyotas fears of the Obama EPA than anything. But times they are a changing...