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Non-political things that make you say...WTF?!?! (Welcome To Florida!) **NOT CV RELATED** NO TALKY!

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  1. Feb 13, 2017 at 5:00 PM
    Cuffs

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    While Katrina was similar, it was different in many aspects. (I was living in New Orleans at that time). The Corps of Engineers took the public scrutiny and blame but a large part of the levee failure is the fault of the City of NOLA.
     
  2. Feb 13, 2017 at 5:58 PM
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    I would have to respectfully disagree with you on that statement. The issue of the failed levee in NOLA was a part of the corrupted local and state political appointees that were responsible for inspecting and keeping USACE honest, however all the local parishes did nothing. Plaquemines, St. Bernard, St. Tammany, Jefferson, St. Charles, were all the same. The issue of levee inspections was just a BS job for political appointees and is rampant throughout the country where the feds are actully responsble, however the locals want to maintain there measure of control. In reality is was probably the best side of the levee that broke, as had it been on the Jefferson side then we would of lost basically the entire East Bank of Jefferson Parish and still would of lost what we did in Orleans. This was just luck, not management for sure...
    The underling issue was the defunding of USACE over the course of multiple administrations and this is partly how Bill managed to have a surplus before he handed over the reins to baby bush.
    I believe the feds are actually responsible for all the levees that control the rivers and lakes throughout the country, and the local authorities have their hands tied even if they had the intestinal fortitude to what is right.
    I remember reading something in the years after Katrina, about the state of levee's around the country and Sacramento apparently was in the top two for potential for catastrophic failure.
    Anyway, the LSU professor that penned the article right after katrina about the failure of the 17th St. levee contradicting USACE's position over over-topping which resulted in undermining the T-wall which caused the failure. I think his name was Van Der (?) said that it was a heave and he was correct. He raised so many items that he had been working on for years and being ignored that I think he ended up getting let go in 2007 for LSU. He also did a multiple page spread in the Times Pic about the 17th St. levee failure including other scenarios...
    Sorry for the long ramble...
    :cheers:
     
  3. Feb 13, 2017 at 6:04 PM
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  4. Feb 13, 2017 at 6:05 PM
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    And a ramble it is. Go ahead. Disagree. One source does not make for proof. And LSU-anything is not a credible source by my standards.
     
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  5. Feb 13, 2017 at 6:08 PM
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    Unfortunately this video won't embed: https://ispot.tv/a/7bD_
     
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  7. Feb 13, 2017 at 7:28 PM
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    Agreed, however he was the only one in the beginning that went against what the 'professionals' were saying and then backed it up with real data from levee bore samples to prove his theory and that is the one that is agreed to what actually happened at 17th St. The industrial canal failure was due to over topping and he also proved that through the same methodology and Orleans levee failure was simply just due to the pump station levee being lower than the actual canal.
    Anyway, what is sad is that katrina showed the country really just how poor our infastructure really is, and yet nothing seems to have been done to change the mindset of our DC boys and girls. The dam in Cali is another example of this kind of kick the can mentality...
     
  8. Feb 13, 2017 at 8:07 PM
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    My friend has a shirt that says:

    Front: I like my women like I like my coffee....
    Back: ...ground up in the freezer.

    Is it just me or does that limbo woman look a bit like Zoe Saldana? Yum.
     
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    The good thing that came out of Katrina was just a few weeks later we had Rita on the Texas coast, our levees held but people took heed and evacuated and it likely saved many lives. It had been so long prior that a big storm devastated such an area and there had been so many missed calls that people were complacent. Had Rita hit before Katrina people would have left NO when the call was made.
     
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    My in-laws live in Guatemala City not far from the city dump and public cemetery. People actually LIVE in in both places. In the cemetery, the buzzards/vultures are just sitting and looking at you like you are fresh meat. I also got to see one of the sinkholes, right at an intersection. There was another sink hole that opened up a week before one of my visits but could not get near it.
     
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    Hmmm... city dump, graveyard, sinkholes... I wonder what if.... :gossip::devil::devil:
     
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    wilcam47 Keep on keeping on!

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    I watched this short documentary that showed the cemetery is falling into the dump, they have crypts at the edge going over, due to landslides etc..most of this toxic stuff eventually flows into the ocean...
     
  16. Feb 14, 2017 at 10:50 AM
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    its a pretty good rule of thumb that everything flows to the ocean eventually. poor fisheys.
     
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  18. Feb 14, 2017 at 11:55 AM
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    ecoterragaia Everyone lives downstream.

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    And people who eat the fishys . . .
     
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    yep. everythings connected somehow.
     
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    ecoterragaia Everyone lives downstream.

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