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Manual Transmission Getting Stuck in Gear

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by motomaster132003, Feb 9, 2016.

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Does your 2016 Toyota Tacoma 3.5L 6sp Manual become difficult to shift out of gear on longer drives?

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  1. Oct 22, 2016 at 8:22 AM
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    su.b.rat

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    i'm also looking at the URD possibly. don't mind long throws, but do like tight and predictable which is why i'm considering it. i don't have the truck yet, told w/in 2 weeks or so, but my plan is to give it at least 1k miles, maybe 2 or 3k, before i do anything like this. i want to know what and why i'm modifying before i do. after long histories of modifying cars i've learned to be patient until the plan is a clear one. just my .02.
     
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  2. Oct 22, 2016 at 8:55 AM
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    I know you're probably right. The throws are not horrible but they are so much more than I'm used to from my 350z. I really want to put it in but know I should at least break it in first to make sure there are no issues.
     
  3. Oct 22, 2016 at 9:49 AM
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    The dealer shouldn't have a problem with a shifter nor should it void the warranty. The problem is internal and its just a minor fix. If after 1k you don't notice the transmission becoming hard to disengage the stick shift (gears), you should be fine.
     
  4. Oct 22, 2016 at 4:59 PM
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    So this kits directions are so not for the 2016/2017. After I finally got the "cup holder"out, I realized there is no need to remove the whole console which also has electrical hookups that I could not unplug for some reason. I removed the shifter boot which had a small gap under the front part where it's secured by plastic clips for some reason. I then proceeded to attempt removal of the shifter assembly- good luck there! The front two bolts are not accessible due to the frame of the truck which I'm guessing will need to be trimmed up to allow access. I tried a swivel attachment which did not have enough clearance and tried a wrench which I barely had room for and could not break it loose. After an hour and a half I gave up for now and put it back together.

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  5. Oct 22, 2016 at 5:02 PM
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    In that last picture there is a black hose coming out of the shifter that I'm assuming is somekind of vaccum? No mention of it in the directions. I'm also certain that by adding that spacer plate that come with the kit that metal will definitely need cut out to allow for the new bolts to go in.
     
  6. Oct 23, 2016 at 1:11 PM
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    FINAL UPDATE!!

    Just took my G-ride down to LA for the night and had zero problems with my transmission. I can confirm that the TSB or detent ball fix does solve the issue. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the issue and to OP for starting the discussion that likely helped Toyota fix the solve the problem.
     
  7. Oct 31, 2016 at 10:49 AM
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    for those of you that have had the tsb repair: does your shifter feel loose afterward? one person mentioned this--just want to know if this is widespread? that would suck.
     
  8. Oct 31, 2016 at 4:27 PM
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    Mine felt just fine. The shift engagement of each gear felt a bit more solid as well.
     
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  9. Nov 1, 2016 at 6:11 AM
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    NO, you weren't doing anything wrong. This issue occurs in all gears. I had the same issues while four wheeling too. Note if this is consistent with the higher gears as well. Mine started acting up right at about 20-30 miles. Just make sure it wasn't a fluke so you can get it fixed as soon as possible. When you take it in mention the TSB-0088-16 and they should have all the info.
     
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  10. Nov 2, 2016 at 5:49 PM
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    I am in a bit of a pickle with the so called TSB-0088-16. I recently went to have my 10k service performed and once again informed the service department about the sticking 4th, 5th and 6th gear during long distance drives. One tech tried to talk to me like a child and said the truck still needs to break in, blah, blah, blah. I told him about the TSB after he said the tech could not replicate the issue, but he said that is for a 2015 model and doesn't pertain to the 2016. I'm over the hassle of trying to get this thing fixed so I sent Toyota HQ an email for good measure. I think it's time to find a new stealership.
     
  11. Nov 2, 2016 at 5:53 PM
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    You need to find another dealership. When I went to my local dealer (where I purchased the truck) I had driven it long enough to get the sticking to occur, but when I rode with the service manager the truck behaved well. Ultimately they found the TSB and performed the fix. The TSB is actually shown in its entirety earlier in this thread and that will show the applicable years. If you want to go back to that dealer, bring the printed copy of the TSB.
     
  12. Nov 3, 2016 at 6:07 AM
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    I feel these folks can be clueless. When finalizing, wading through the last shark tank before driving my truck away, the deal with the business manager he told me I was getting oil changes at 5k, I informed him that is not the case, please verify. He continued to tell me it's every 5k, looked it up in 3 different books. I told him that folks are fighting with service because folks like him are telling them its 5k, and the service says 10k. He finally went to ask service and came back to inform me that I was correct.

    I am not looking forward to getting any issues dealt with at the dealership.
     
  13. Feb 24, 2017 at 7:18 PM
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    Dannyblues here first time post. My 2016 Tacoma double cab, 4x4 with six speed manual transmission began getting stuck in gear shortly after I purchased it new in July 2016. I mentioned it to shop foreman at 2500 miles. Since it gets stuck only occasionally he suggested I drive it more, break it in and report back. The same as others here it gets stuck mostly in fifth or sixth on a longer drive especially in warmer weather. Once it sticks once it continues for another half hour or so then disappears. It's dangerous as I'm usually trying to exit an interstate onto another interstate exit on my blind right side while freewheeling with the clutch in all the way, pulling or pushing the frozen shifter and losing speed. I force it to neutral and try again. It's difficult to duplicate but I registered with Toyota and got a case number. They sent a rep with shop foreman to try and duplicate which they did by goosing the gas pedal as they depressed the clutch. Bottom line on report is that I shift wrong! Ok I'd try to be sure my right foot was well away from the gas pedal as I shift. Downshifting it is of course as I'm on the brake. It's idiotic. I've driven manual shift cars only for nearly 29 years and never had this problem. I have a class one semi trailer license as well. And I ride a motorcycle. Since the last time the foreman warned me on my shifting technique it happened again several times in 6,5, 4 and 3rd gears for twenty minutes after over an hour on busy highways. Seems worse when cruising in one particular gear for an extended time such as fifteen minutes in fifth. Jams! Now with my complaint registered and a case number the Toyota corporation district rep is coming back again. The foreman wants to use my truck for the day to try and duplicate it again. What's the need. 31% of owners have reported this problem but I'm told I'm the only one in the USA on file!! So what's the fix? At 9400 miles I don't want the dealer putting in yet another troubled tranny. Plus what damage has been done to the clutch and other components? Toyota moved the CAT into the engine compartment. Can the heat matched with a hot engine after an hour drive cause the clutch fluid to become so hot as to make the clutch inoperable. I doubt it's leaving my foot on the gas peddle ever caused it and no longer can as I rock my right heel a few inches back off the pedal before I depress the clutch. I've even moved the seat up so close I'm denting the mat below the clutch to make sure it's fully disengaged. Call Toyota USA. Get a case number. Follow through. There are too many of us being told this dangerous situation can't be duplicated therefore can't be remedied. Keep up the pressure. Car complaints.com also lists similar complaints with this stuck shift issue on tacomas. I logged all you guys posts to show the shop foreman and Toyota district representative. Best I can offer so far. When I get an answer I'll post it. Please do the same for me. Obviously Toyota corp doesn't want a paper trail of complaints that will cost them money under warranty or show the world they produce defective trucks and really don't care about the customers. Dannyblues
     
  14. Feb 25, 2017 at 6:50 AM
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    Dang sorry to here this Danny, where did you get the 31% from? I have not experienced this yet, just did a 5 plus hour drive, but it's not hot by any means here. I did how ever start hearing a "squeak" or something with my clutch. I believe it's an easy fix, but will take it in an ways, I want it documented.
     
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  15. Feb 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
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    I went to car complaints. com I believe and of the number of transmission related issues regarding manual transmissions getting stuck in gear there was a dialog box at the top. In it i saw of the reports 31% reported issues with yes my manual gets stuck in gear. If you go through this thread on manual transmissions getting stuck in gear on 2016 Tacoma there are 22 pages. I only went through the first six pages to locate how many reported the exact same issue as mine. There were at least five I believe. The remaining part of those six pages were replies to the original problem posted at Tacomawirld.com. This problem occurs on mine at last record after one month and 1500 miles of driving since I last brought it in for the shop to check and attempt to duplicate which they did by gooseing the gas as the clutch was put in. Therefore they said I was doing that. Shifting improperly. This last time it occurred was after 60 miles, one hour of driving through the Bronx on a busy highway in moving traffic. Once the shifting locks once, usually in fifth gear it continues on and off for about twenty plus minutes. After I arrive and shut the truck off then head back home from NYC to Ct it doesn't occur again and may or may not for a month. It seems last summer it happened more often, every few days or week. I have altered my style of shifting by rocking my right heel off and far away from the gas pedal this past month and it happened again. I've always had manual shift vehicles and never had a shift problem. You may be one of the lucky ones that don't have the problem. When I say it sticks in gear I mean you have to pull or push it very very hard to get it unstuck. One online source suggested that heat in the engine compartment may cause fluid to heat up in the clutch fluid and slip past the slave cylinder building resistance force in the clutch unit. Since Toyota now put the hot catalytic converter in the engine compartment and this seems to happen when the vehicle is good and normally warm after 60 miles of driving and is worse yet in moving heavier traffic I wonder if heat isn't the issue and that the hot clutch fluid isn't the cause. I'm not a professional mechanic but I know a little and have common sense and an ability to reason clearly. By the way my clutch was very thick and heavy last winter at 1 degree and actually the clutch pedal stuck to the floor briefly at my first upshift. A cold environment problem. Good luck. Dannyblues
     
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  16. Feb 25, 2017 at 12:10 PM
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    That is the one thing l do not like about my 15, the clutch catches all the way up at the top.
     
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  17. Feb 25, 2017 at 3:26 PM
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    Dannyblues, if you read through the thread, you'll see that there is a TSB out for this problem: TSB-0088-16. It is a very simple fix and completely solves the stuck in gear problem.
     
  18. Feb 25, 2017 at 3:48 PM
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    I thought manual drivers didn't have problems like they point out on the auto.
     
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  19. Feb 25, 2017 at 3:51 PM
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    why you think that? 95% of tacos are AT, and probably 95% of those problems are AT-related. and of the remaining 5% some are fanboys and the rest old schoolers who don't like to bitch and moan much. but there are still things to call problems. my clutch just started squeaking today, for example.
     
  20. Feb 25, 2017 at 3:52 PM
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    Sounds like both have issues, although it sounds like the TSB completely cures the sticking in gear.
     
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