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Mid Travel BS 2.0

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by 2ndGenJonny, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. Feb 14, 2017 at 8:54 PM
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    Evenflow

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    So...you got more up travel than fender flare clearance ? Better hack those babies up before you go froadin'
     
  2. Feb 14, 2017 at 9:26 PM
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    Set the bumps so that it bottoms out right as the tire starts to touch the fender. But I sure would love some 2" fenders like the stock looking fronts that McNeil makes...
     
  3. Feb 14, 2017 at 9:34 PM
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    F all that.

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  4. Feb 14, 2017 at 9:38 PM
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    Did you limit available travel to save fenders and flares ? the pics look like the tires are big in those OE fenders. Those McNeils do look good on stock width trucks, too bad they don't make matching bedsides too.
     
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  5. Feb 14, 2017 at 9:49 PM
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    Sorry I thought you were talking rear end...

    Ya the 285's are big in the front. I trimmed a lot of front and rear plastic, but the top/center of the inside is still intact. When I bumped the front it did touch a little bit. But we will see how it does. I didn't have any problems with the Icons so I have high hopes!

    But ya as soon as McNeil makes a matching rear I may have to jump on a full set. I'm too OCD to have them on the front and no rears haha.
     
  6. Feb 14, 2017 at 9:59 PM
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    Yeah, I feel the same way I hate the way front glass with stock bedsides look...the fit and finish of most of the fiberglass stuff makes my OCD twitch too :)
     
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  7. Feb 14, 2017 at 10:05 PM
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  8. Feb 26, 2017 at 5:31 PM
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    @jberry813 that uni-ball soaked in brake cleaner gave it up last week. All the others are tight and quite, this one spit out chunks of pfte. We'll see when the rest of them fail for comparison.
     
  9. Feb 26, 2017 at 5:44 PM
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    Kinda figured it would. Brake cleaner is corrosive to almost everything.

    Food for thought. The uniballs used in pretty much every aftermarket UCA I'm aware of all have a PTFE woven fabric liner. PTFE has once of the lowest coefficients of friction of every solid piece of material on earth. Seriously, it's the same shit used in non-stick cookware. By adding lube...you are actually doing the opposite of lubing and just giving dirt and debris something to adhere too. Ever drop some salt into a non-stick pan? Turn the pan upside down and it falls right out. Now put some oil in a non-stick pan and add salt........

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  10. Feb 26, 2017 at 5:47 PM
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    I don't lube the uniballs on my personal truck. I wipe the dirt off but don't lube them and they last quite a while. When it comes to installs on other people's trucks I just follow the manufacturers instructions, that way I can't be blamed for premature failure.
     
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  11. Feb 26, 2017 at 5:52 PM
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    On my last truck I lubed them twice in 5 years. Never any slop or play. Only washed them when they were squeaking or obviously dirty. Most the time you just need water. If you have to use lube, literally just a couple drops is all that's needed...and don't do that until you wash them. Any more than that (inclusive of dry lube) and you just give the dirt something to stick to which eventually tears the liners.
     
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    Lots of silt in the water where we wheel, so they get squeeky if not cleaned and lubed (proven by experiment). But way less lube that I was using, and a thinner/lighter lube too.
     
  14. Feb 28, 2017 at 10:22 AM
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    Maybe the MT gurus can help me out, although I know there's not a ton of 1st gens in here.

    After years of half-assing it, I'm taking the time to get my setup dialed properly now. Pulled the bed and cycled the leafs. Old setup FWIW, 10" 7100 short bodies, leaf pack was a bastard pack based on a Wheelers 5 pack:

    [​IMG]IMAG0180 by brettbjorgum, on Flickr

    Full droop is more than I could realistically get due to spring retainers etc. Shackles are about to invert as well:

    [​IMG]IMAG0186 by brettbjorgum, on Flickr

    Bumps were setup to work with my last shocks, not around the leafs as they should have been. Couldn't compress them without lifting the frame off the jackstands:

    [​IMG]IMAG0188 by brettbjorgum, on Flickr

    Springs are pretty negative, and would be even more when the bumps compress fully. Therefore, realistic travel with bumping the leafs flat, and spring retainers installed, might be 9 inches (measured about 10 inches with current config).

    So, any other SOA packs that will net more travel? What about a bumped and strapped SUA pack? Not sure I want to put a ton of effort into setting up my current pack for 9" of travel, but do think I can get 12" shocks under the bed.
     
  15. Feb 28, 2017 at 10:30 AM
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    You won't fit 12's under the bed without cutting into the bed or angling them really far back. And when you angle them that much, you loose dampening when you need it most (compression cycle). You can do 12's outside the frame with a shock hoop, but not without wheel spacers.

    Personally I'm at the point where the only pack I recommend are custom packs. Built to suite your needs, your weight, and your mount points. But custom packs normally come with a 4 digit price tag.
     
  16. Feb 28, 2017 at 12:06 PM
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    Something I have always wondered when cycling leafs, I would assume when you bump a full leaf kit while driving it does not make this funky S curve like it does when you cycle a single leaf. Doesn't change much but that was why I preferred mounting my rubber bumps on the frame in case the axle rotation is a little different
     
  17. Feb 28, 2017 at 12:30 PM
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    I'll measure tonight, but was thinking with an over the top cap, and welded rod ends I could get them short enough, maybe not. Also sitting on a 1" body lift I've been debating putting on, that could get the upper mount up another inch. Last setup had the shocks angled back quite a bit, and was planning on not doing that again.

    Clearance would be tight outside the frame even with spacers, not sure that's the route I want to go anyways.

    I don't mind spending the money for performance, but what it looks like I'm seeing and what I'm hearing, is that between stock mounting point limitations, and shock placement limitations, you'll never get more than 10" of travel.

    I guess I need to decide if I'm comfortable going through the bed with the shocks and changing leaf mounting points, or just work with what I have.
     
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    Are these repairable easily? Or chuck them in the trash?
     
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    How are the shafts?
     
  20. Feb 28, 2017 at 9:47 PM
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    Shafts are ok. I am more worried about the threads on the shock body were the collar jumped out of place
     

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