U-Bolt Flip Kit

Just doing some preliminary research, providing at least one person is willing to help . Anyway I should have done my u-bolt flip kit when I did my lift. Hindsight is 20/20 but I have a feeling my wallet is still going to hurt lol.

Anyway, looking for insight. What's the best u-bolt flip kit at a reasonable price? Where's a good place to relocate the shock to? Will I need new shocks (right now I'm running the toytec BOSS shocks). Any/all advise is appreciated.

I guess it would be a good idea to mention I'm running OME Dakars.

 

Most seem to go for the allpro. But you will likely need to buy bump stops. The wallet will for sure be hurting.

When the funds permit, I'm thinking about doing the flip kit with timbren bump stops

 

What about u-bolt eliminator, and poly BBSC shocks (with bump stops installed on the shock)?

 

Haven't actually heard of an eliminator kit. Would you mind posting a link?

 

Real question is WHY do you think you need all this? Unless you are switching to a long travel kit, no need for all this. You can get a ubolt flip for like $30, so if that is going to make your wallet hurt, not sure any of this makes sense?

 

The flip kit isn't what I expect will kill my wallet, it's the combination of everything, along with the fact that I'm "double spending." It should have been done 2 months ago when I did my lift instead of rebuying ubolts and shocks....

Flip kit - $30 (not sure where you found it for $30 but id really like to know)
Cheep bump stops - $20 (haven't measured how big I need to go, so assuming I can use cheepos....)
New shocks - $200? (need to know compressed and extended travel lengths)

Oh and to answer the why question - I plan on wheeling my rig as much as I can. I believe I will need the ground clearance. I'd rather not have issues because a ubolt got hung up on a rock.

I guess what really kills me is I need skids and sliders and this "rebuying" is dipping into those funds...

 

A ubolts flip is easy to install
2 plates 4 ubolts and some new bumps
Why the need for shocks?

 

The bolt flip kit eliminates to lower shock mount (which is part of the factory ubolt bracket). If I have to relocate it, I will need a different length shock, right?

 

Unless you weld the new shock mount on the axle to the same height as before, but that negates the ground clearance benefits.

#1stgenproblems

 

Hmm did not know that the 1st gen shock mounted to the ubolt bracket
Learn something new everyday
Carry on

 

Hey you. Shut up. I love my first gen lol

 

A shock relocate is to give you more shock travel, not really to gain clearance. Anything above 2-3" of lift, about the only way to gain ground clearance is with bigger tires. You rear diff and the front crossmember are the low points. I'd worry about armor first if you really are going to wheel. Even with a lot of mods and bigger tires, sliders and skids still take a beating.

 

It's not just the shock relocate, it's also the ubolt flip so I don't get hung up on the ubolts

it's a first gen so the lower shock mount is on the ubolt bracket. If I do the ubolt flip to avoid hanging up on them (ground clearance I would say is very necessary when you're only running 285s) I will have to relocate the lower shock mount.

 

I also did not notice you were 1st gen.
But still, I'd look into armor first. you are already 2 1/2" lift, so armor and fitting bigger tires would be your better starting points. Although people claim to have been hung up on ubolts, I've seen a lot of people wheel in a lot of places and never actually saw it happen. You'd have to catch something sticking up and hit it just right, as the tire should allow it to clear most obstacles.

 

I don't think I can fit anything bigger than 285s (33s) without major cutting which I'm waiting for a SAS to do.

But I will take your advise and order my sliders today

 

I ran the Rubicon and Fordyce trails dozens of times (in a previous Toyota rig) with the stock u-bolt set up. I never had a u-bolt get 'hung up' on a rock. So long as they are the proper length (not too long and not too short) they are protected by the flange on the u-bolt plate. For a little more peace of mind, I had a shop fab up little 'skid-plates' to the u-bolt plates. Axle housing ground clearance is best achieved by larger tires (to raise the axle housing further above the ground). The differential is still the limiting factor, not the u-bolt plates.

IMHO, I think this forum creates a sort-of lemming-like mass hysteria to do expensive mods that really are not necessary, that instead create additional expensive problems. This might include a half-dozen LED bars, snorkels, plasti-derping, etc. It kinda like the "keeping up with the Jones's" mentality.

The good side, however, is it provides jobs in the aftermarket industry.

YMMV

 

A buddy of mine is a more experience off road-er than I. He was the one who pointed out the u-bolt issues. I think I'm going to cut the ubolts flush with the nuts. I'm just more frustrated that Toytec didn't recommend the flip kit (just like I didn't need an extended rear brake line) when I asked if there was anything else I needed or they would recommend. That would have been a very appreciated recommendation that would have prevented this whole scenario.

 

^^^ Ha, I posted in another thread that the shackle flip isn't any good unless you are running bump stops that require it. I immediately was told I was stupid and they get hung up. What bullhsit. it might catch a branch or something at the most, but certainly nothing to make you stuck. at the most, you might booger up the end threads. I always wonder how may on TW have a shock relocate(2nd gen) and 10 -12" shocks, but still use only 7-8" of travel at best?

 

So do Twilight fans, especially red first gens