Hesitation, Bog Down, Miss, Luging, Poor Response

Well, it's my wife's . I'm buying her something else.

It's a 2013 limited. Drives epic. I did swap out the shocks for some billies.

 

Oh shit bro...now it's on!

You're alright man.

 

I think the only children here are the people unwilling to just use ECT mode.

Look, complain all you want, but there is a solution to all of the complaints in this thread and it's a simple push of a button.

 

I've experienced this.
The downshifting jump and no pickup.
Not the burning smell.

I had a 99 dodge cummins with a four speed that did the exact same thing between gears. Drove me nuts.

I haven't gotten frustrated with my Tacoma though.

 

OK - May I am missing something. I've used ECT. It winds gears out more and it doesn't go in OD. Right ? I know Toyota has some odd explanations and descriptions for their operation modes. But ECT seems like a towing mode to me. Not something to use on an interstate ?

 

You are having a problem I don't have so I am out.

 

Incorrect.

The ECT button in your Toyota toggles the electronic controlled transmission on and off. This transmission system uses hydraulics to actuate the clutches and bands, which are controlled by electronic solenoid, which simplifies the vehicle’s transmission while providing more advanced control.

With ECT, vehicles offer more elaborate control schemes. Not only does it monitor the vehicle speed and throttle position, the transmission controller can also monitor the engine speed when the brake pedal is pressed but the anti-lock braking system as well.

Using your vehicle’s electronically controlled transmission, your Toyota’s engine is able to shift at higher revs. That being said, a good time to use this function of your engine is when you need to accelerate quickly, such as when merging onto the freeway. Acceleration is noticeably quicker with the Electronic Controlled Transmission on, however it should be noted that it significantly decreases your vehicle’s efficiency.

AKA - NON ECO MODE.

I wish someone would just sticky this because people are too ignorant to understand it..

 

I like how you are coming into this thread and fanboying like crazy. This truck lunges ,hesitates, bogs down, etc It also shifts like a retarded monkey is in the gearbox. I know it might be hard for you, but your beloved Tacoma brand is in the shitter right now...and thats okay. I think you'll survive. No need to act like a dickhead to people that have shitty problems with their new trucks.

 

So you are suggesting that anytime you need the truck to respond like you would actually expect a truck to respond, people should be hitting the ECT button? Does that sound right to you? This truck shifts like a turd unless you get all of the TSBs or put it in ECT mode..and you have to manually do that every time. Super user friendly. Definitely normal operation for a vehicle.

 

I like how you are coming into this thread thinking every truck off the line is what you're describing. Yes, 100% of the trucks have issues. You got us.

 

You must have been lead on your debate team.

Look, I'm not a Toyota fanboy, this is my first Tacoma. I came from an Audi S3 that did 0-60 in under 5 seconds. Before that, I owned a Golf R. Both with DSG transmissions which are lauded by many to be the best out there.

That said, I had different driving modes in the S3. Each mode had unique rev points.

So to answer your question, if I designed the truck, which I didn't, I would have left an option for the operator to keep ECT mode enabled permanently whilst the button was depressed. The truck is not designed that way, so, I suck it up and just hit the ECT button.

As for shift points, I expect it to shift like a dog in drive without ECT mode enabled, because it's basically eco mode without the "name" and is trying to save on gas.

Again, you guys can cry all day or use ECT mode. I just find it amusing people are upset they are getting horrible performance in a mode that is designed to save on gas.

 

Exactly Right!! I think I got the best of both worlds either leave it in eco and save gas, or sport mode when I need to Haul Ass, and have fun doing it, or hit ECT if I don't want to shift manually...

 

Didn't mean to whack the hornet’s nest. But I feel some good discussion(And Personal Feelings-LOL) has come out from this.

FanBoys - I'm OK with FanBoys. Usually they're the first to point out the Good the Bad and the Ugly.

All Trucks off the line - I don't think anyone said that. Frustrated owners just want it known that issues still exist.

Arguing with children - That was my bad(My personal feelings).

ECT Explained - Thank You ! I had no idea that is what ECT stood for. It forced me to take out the Owner's Manual again. Yep ! No clear explanation found there. I want to know more about how it functions and hopefully bypasses the ECO & Learning.

ECO or ECT Normal running mode - That's just a personal preference.


The key here is that we work together(And TOLERATE each other-LOL) so that corporate hears and gives attention to everyone's concerns.

 

I agree with the OP. I wanted to get a new Tacoma but hated it on my test drive. So Toyota has lost my repeat business... at least unless/until they fix this.

 

Agree that current normal mode is really ECO mode. I would dispute that ECT is really "normal" mode because in my experience using ECT is a bit over-the-top for normal driving. I don't need gears held quite that long or shifts quite that quick/rough, and I would like to use 6th.

It's either too hot or too cold, not just right... which is the real problem. Oh well, it's definitely much better post TSB-REV0. I'm very thankful for that.

 

So try Sport mode, then you can make it just right....

 

I think my Tacoma came with the tsb because I'm not experiencing the same issues as some people. Although In the begging I felt the truck didnt want to downshift I've gotten adjusted to it and can get it to respond with more throttle. I can't say that I've experienced it down shift and not speed up, when mines down shift it picks up speed really quickly. I will update if I experience anything else. All and all I was expecting it to not be responsive going into the truck, I was reading on this forum for months before I placed my deposit. I am very happy with the truck and it may be my driving style but I have no issues with power.

 

I feel like it goes a gear too deep. So it down shifts, revs out, up shifts one gear then goes to town. It's that few seconds of "too low" gear that is the issue.

I also like the truck and rarely need to accelerate at speed where this is an issue. I'm sure with enough driving or "manual" shifting you learn to anticipate it and act accordingly.