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"Wheeler's Anonymous"

Discussion in 'Southern California' started by SlipperyTaco, Apr 5, 2016.

  1. Mar 26, 2017 at 7:02 PM
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    For sure. Yeah you want to be really careful spinning your tires with loose/no traction, especially with the rear end locked. Sudden traction and kaboom
     
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  2. Mar 26, 2017 at 7:09 PM
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    Well..that just made me never want to go up that way. I'll take the safe way around..
     
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  3. Mar 26, 2017 at 7:24 PM
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    I've done it twice but yeah you want to be careful anytime you have to 'bump' it up something, that constant no traction/sudden traction can end badly if you're unlucky.
     
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  4. Mar 26, 2017 at 7:30 PM
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    I've been doing Rower/Drinkwater for thirty years first on bikes now in trucks. Never been able to get up that side. Going down is fun but up...
     
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  5. Mar 26, 2017 at 8:38 PM
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    :anonymous: I have to bump my way up everything
     
  6. Mar 26, 2017 at 8:56 PM
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    Still should not have happened. It is definitely a 3rd gen thing. I beat the ever living fuck out of my '85 truck with an 8" rear, ARB, and stock 31 year old axle shafts. The truck handles like a muthafuckin' champ and @Nicklovin and his buddy that was my passenger can attest to that.

    From what I know, @MADSTEEZE knows what he is doing off-road. This is definitely a 3rd gen failure.
     
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  7. Mar 26, 2017 at 9:16 PM
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    No doubt, they def shouldn't grenade like that. I've run my 04 up that same spot a few times (only gotten up twice) and still have my rear end in one piece lol, but I wonder if it had anything to do with the ARB he got installed in his sport diff. I'm sure that's where Toyota would point the finger anyway lol.

    Im definitley not questioning Alex's wheeling skills, I used to wheel with him quite a bit before he got Instagram famous, lol...he's ballsy haha but he knows his truck really well. One of the best 3rd gen builds out there
     
  8. Mar 26, 2017 at 9:17 PM
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    1st gen best gen :fistbump:
     
  9. Mar 26, 2017 at 9:26 PM
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    Not sure if he's got all his skids, but would that have helped?:notsure:
     
  10. Mar 26, 2017 at 9:28 PM
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    I don't think it was an issue of hitting the diff, I think it was the constant no traction/traction that blew it up. That puts press a ton of stress on the differential, esp when its locked.

    I could be wrong though, maybe it did tag a rock and that threw it out of whack and caused it to grenade, hopefully Alex will pop in and let us know
     
  11. Mar 26, 2017 at 9:30 PM
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    No chance in hell that it is due to the ARB. The ARB is the most "bullet-proof" part in a built third. Possibly R&P, but I would venture to guess that he is not running stock 4.10 that may be weaker than aftermarket. I know my ARB's came with an ARB carrier, which is made to be as strong as the ARB itself. Typically, the shafts or splines themselves would be the weak link. But, once again, I am running stock 31-32 year old shafts in mine in the rear with no issues so far. And in the front I have RCV's, which means my weak link would be the hub gears.

    Toyota might try and point fingers, but there is definitely some fuckery going on with these 3rd gens.
     
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  12. Mar 26, 2017 at 9:33 PM
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    No, from first hand experience, a driveshaft would give way before other damage would happen at such an angle. It appears to be internal damage that occurred. Diff armor would have been ineffective as well.
     
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  13. Mar 26, 2017 at 10:47 PM
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    :bananadance:
     
  14. Mar 27, 2017 at 1:14 AM
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    This isn't directed at motoed or anyone in particular but anywho....

    I don't understand the "Internet's" mentality that all mechanical damage is immediate, sudden and catastrophic.

    It's not.

    And this isn't just a Tacomaworld thing, it's everywhere.

    If you are hopping your way up obstacles like that and make it without destroying something doesn't mean you didn't fatigue your gear set and have potentially set it up to fail early.

    I'm guessing everyone here has read or heard a story about someone who blew a set of gears driving on a dirt road or hell, even pavement. Whenever I come across stories like that I always wonder when the last time was that they beat the shit out of their drive train. Don't get me wrong I'm sure there are random unmolested gears that fail out there, but I would also wager a lot of blown gears were abused at some point too.

    Also I'm not looking down on doing things like this, often times fun things and stupid things are one and the same and I've done way more than my share of fun(stupid) things in my truck. Just keep in mind that when you abuse your truck, just because it didn't fail immediately doesn't mean you didn't potentially shave a couple hundred to a couple thousand miles from some of your components life expectancies.

    Interesting reading:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatigue_(material)

    And since someone might bring it up, I would wager a buck or 2 that the stress put on a gear set while hopping up obstacles is beyond the stress amplitude for gearing.

    Also for anyone out there that is doing things like in the video routinely I would seriously recommend looking into:
    Front locker
    More aggressive tires
    Beadlocks
    Larger tires(larger contact patch when aired down)

    I don't know about anyone else but I would rather spend money on upgrades than repairs.
     
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  15. Mar 27, 2017 at 8:54 AM
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    I make it look easy :anonymous: Just need to hit it at the right angle and you can walk up it.
     
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  16. Mar 27, 2017 at 9:09 AM
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    Haha. Actually haven't tried that obstacle on 35s yet. It's easy enough with 33s.. but yeah 35s fuck the world.

    This morning some old man pulled up next to me in his work van and was honking. Has a mean look so I was thinking he was road raging for something . I rolled the window down and he said " Can you get a bigger tire on that truck! That thing is f**kin huge." Made my day right there. Lmao
     
  17. Mar 27, 2017 at 9:20 AM
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    @tetten That is not me in the video. I was simply posting it up so others could see what happened. That was Alex in the video. But I agree that fatigued parts will fail over time and parts will fail when beat on hard by a real off-roader, not a mall crawler. How else do you get to upgrade your truck? You break it, you make it stronger. Vicious circle. If I were Mr money bags, sure I would upgrade the Fuck out of my truck. But I'm not and most of the guys on here are not. So we upgrade as we go and sometimes we're breaking shit along the way.
     
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  18. Mar 27, 2017 at 10:29 AM
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    The sport has the good ole toyota 8". It worked really with 90hp and 2500 lbs. Not so much with 275hp and 5000 lbs.

    So definitely a 3rd gen issue. The OR on the other hand has the new 8.75" and its a lot stronger.

    2nd gen e-lockers also had a similar 8" axle problem once going bigger tires and really pushing it.
     
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  19. Mar 27, 2017 at 10:51 AM
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    whats up you instagram whore! lol
     
  20. Mar 27, 2017 at 11:20 AM
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