flowmaster muffler = good power increase!!

haha yeah a little bit im not the only one that flys the flag up here tho lol

 

would headers gain me power or would they hurt me too?
if they help what would be better dt long tubes or something like jba shortys?

 

Headers WILL help. I believe long tubes will gain more power but im not sure.

 

i was thinking about some long tubes but idk if its worth the money.

 

It's all about the dyno. Dyno's are calibrated better than the butt dyno. Even if the 'real' dyno is miss-caled it's closer

 

That's not true even a little bit. You defeat your own argument: It's about money. Toyota wouldn't spend $150 on a muffler for a couple or few hp when they can spend $20 (or whatever small figure) on an OEM muffler.

Not only that, many aftermarket products, including said mufflers, DO provide power increases. Manufacturers have to choose between quality vs. price vs. performance and that means there is room for improvement in any stock vehicle.

 

Exactly. There are so many variables involved in the production of a vehicle, including laws as you mentioned, that there's no way they can squeeze every bit of performance out of a vehicle on an assembly line and still have it meet every guideline and CAFE standards.

 

Which exhaust did you use? I want elevendybillion horsepower too! ...you do mean at the rear wheels , right?

 

Don't sweat it man. It looks awesome, sounds awesome and gives a slight gain. There's a lot of bandwagon haters on here...lol

 

so what header and exhaust would give me the most gain on a n/a 4liter?

 

I understand what you're saying. I just don't understand why some people are bashing the guys statement of power gain, when they probably have never even used the product themselves

 

Flowmaster mufflers DO add power over OEM mufflers, by up to 15hp. Hate to break everybody's knock, but manufacturers deal with emission issues, cost issues, etc.,etc., the question is how much over open exhaust would it give? I'ld wonder if any. I usually run Flowmasters, been running em for years now, like the sound, prolly run one on my new Taco too, but then, if I was concerned about all that much HP giddy-up, I wouldn't of got a 4 popper either.

 

Where are the dyno sheets showing a flowmaster will increase power over the Tacoma stock exhaust?

 

Go get some headers to feel real power gains.
For anyone who thinks you lose low end torque from headers doesn't have them.

 

I believe the dyno sheets do prove a loss in lower end. Up to around 2700 RPM?

But you're 18, I'm 20... When do we ever see less than 3 grand.





LoL. J/K. I usually shift around 25.






http://www.urdusa.com/product_info.php?cPath=93_120&products_id=1260518539

 

really... why do they make you pay extra for a trd exhaust that will give you extra power but you will never repoup the cost of the investment??? they engineers found out that the engine works best in "normal driving" conditions as is, doesnt mean you can re-engineer something but it never balances the equation.

i.e.
CAI and muffler(pic one) $500 not installed(do it yourself)
maybe-MAYBE 1mpg better(not likely)
most of the gains we see from stuff we do to our truck is subjective, we want it to happen so we make ourselves think it is happening.i do it too. i have a Volant intake, Magnaflow exhaust, 3in lift and other mods that probably dont do much in the help me out factor,but i look cool as hell driving past the stock trucks.

the engineers designed this truck to get the most out of the engine. i cant remember the thread but someone worked the math on CAI and muffler gains vs cost =not so good gain if any and 500 dollars gone. just saying engineers want the most MPGs while hitting a goal on torque and HP the balance is out truck.



PS I want a supercharger for my rig for no other purpose then to go fast, even though i dont speed i would be the first to the speed limit every-time