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Food Smokers and Smoking Tips/Tricks/Techniques

Discussion in 'Food Talk' started by Polymerhead, Jul 15, 2012.

  1. Apr 16, 2017 at 4:21 PM
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    bigfoote13

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    Where u get it?
     
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  2. Apr 16, 2017 at 5:09 PM
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    If you're asking me, I think I picked mine up from Amazon. Honestly, I don't even use it any longer because it pulls trace elements from the water that I just had to add back (for saltwater invertebrate needs). They typically sell for around $100.00 or so.
     
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  3. Apr 16, 2017 at 5:23 PM
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    What temp did you cook/smoke them? I really never looked at that...maybe they are old chickens or something? Maybe try a salt brine? cook them till the thigh bone separates easily.
     
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  4. Apr 16, 2017 at 6:02 PM
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    Kirkland mastercarve ham. Smoked to 100, turned up to 325 w/glaze, and cooked to 130 internal. Wrapped and rested to 140. Bourbon, OJ, brown sugar glaze. Tasty!


    EDIT: wife not feeling well, and basically slept all day, so this meal really was just for me. And I had to wash my own dishes. o_O
    IMG_3559.jpg
     
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  5. Apr 16, 2017 at 6:05 PM
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    :eek::drool::hungry: even after a couple good meals today that looks really good.
     
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    Just added a small 4.5 lb butt w/bone to the smoker for the second cook. Just a little guy in case something goes awry, then I'm not wasting too much.
     
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  7. Apr 16, 2017 at 6:45 PM
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    This was the initial build. Trimmed the rebar flush. 6'x3' 18ga expanded steel on top of the rebar. Used 6x8x18 cmu. IMG_0209.jpg

    Use a sheet of plywood wrapped in hd foil for a lid. Also lined the bottom with some old pavers. I know I could get better heat retention with caps on top, but it works well enough as it is. Drilled a hole in the center of the plywood and inserted an old thermometer to give me an approximate temp. Easily fits a 50lb pig. This summer Ill probably do a goat, traditional barbacoa style.
     
  8. Apr 16, 2017 at 6:56 PM
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    so you feed fire from one spot...then do u scatter coals throughout or keep em piled there?
    Temp control thru fire size or do u cover fire hole with block to slow air supply?
    Sorry to ask so many questions but I have a thing for masonry pits lol. Someday I will have a combo outdoor pizza oven/BBQ pit setup
     
  9. Apr 16, 2017 at 7:14 PM
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    Well it depends on what and how much Im doing. If its a small amount like a chicken i keep the fire to one side and feed from that side. Bigger things ill usually spread out the coals for a more even temp.

    Temp control is uasually done through fire size, which is a combo of material and air supply blocking.

    But honestly the most important recommendation I can make is a portable mini fan. Thing is a time saver. I bought a cheapy 4AA one from Wal Mart. Start some charcoal in a chimney. Put them in and cover with wood, turn on the mini fan. Ready to cook in less then an hour.
     
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  10. Apr 16, 2017 at 7:38 PM
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    Little bit of chicken and turkey breasts for my meal prep this week. IMG_0802.jpg IMG_0807.jpg IMG_0808.jpg
     
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    Nice.
     
  12. Apr 16, 2017 at 8:28 PM
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    LOL... if you read my original post you'd know I tried to pull a wing off (my personal favorite) and couldn't even pull it free, tried drumstick next, same thing. Twenty years ago that's how I checked doneness, by pulling a drumstick, if it pulled clean, it's done. On this hen I literally couldn't pull a wing or a leg free. Even though the temps checked out. As far as brining, I'll never buy one of these again.
     
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  13. Apr 17, 2017 at 8:01 AM
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    got some old roosters it sounds like ;)
     
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  15. Apr 17, 2017 at 9:11 AM
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    This may very well turn into TL;DR, but oh well, I figure maybe some other beginner may get some use out of it.... And if you expect pics, you will be greatly disappointed, I usually don't take and post foodie stuff.

    Wanted to say thanks to everyone on here, and extra thanks to @greeneggsnspam for some great instructions for the beginner smoker. I decided I wanted to get a WSM several months ago, but never pulled the trigger for a while, as I was having a hard time trying to justify if I would use one enough to sink the dollars and find storage space for "one more thing". I have been picking up tips and info tidbits on here for months, and also PM'd Mr. GE Nspam on some specific questions, since I know he has great knowledge of the smoking process with "cost-effective reality" solutions and also picked up a WSM recently.

    So Thurs, I picked up my "WSM Starter Kit" :D :
    • 18.5" WSM (figured this size would be best for me)
    • chimney coal starter
    • dual lead remote bbq thermometer
    • 2 bag bundle of Kingsford
    • 1 bag of hickory chunks
    • 1 pork shoulder
    So, for the first 3, hardware cost, about $350, then another $50 for the fuel and meat and we are ready to start.

    Fri morning I assembled the WSM and then, using advice from Mr Nspam on fuel and WSM setup (embed 6-8 chunks of wood into a full ring of coal, hollow out a spot for the chimney started coal, set dampers, go), fired it up the first time. Note that I did not "season" the WSM first, again on some advice of "why waste the smoke", I threw the shoulder on the rack, closed the lid and brought it up to temperature.

    Took about an hour to reach 225, then I just adjusted it back and forth to keep it between 225-245. Heard that they ran hot the first time, but I did not have any issues keeping the temp in the range. Although it did end up taking 11 hours (after reaching 225), or 12 hours (from the start and when I put the shoulder on) which seemed long to get to 200 meat temp. But it was perfectly done for pulled pork.

    Also note that I decided on no seasoning/rubs on the meat for the first few tries, that way I know what it may add later to just the taste of the smoke.

    The shoulder turned out so well, I went out and got a brisket to do on Sat. Used the same fuel setup and no rubs/seasoning for it. 12 hours at temp, 13 hours from start, to get to 205. I did the brisket overnight, since my sleep patterns are messed up and I am usually up every hour or two, so not a big deal to watch the temp.

    Brisket also turned out quite well. I am quite impressed with how a little bit of beginner level instruction and a about $400 you can be smoking da meats at a reasonably good level.

    Also, just made myself some observations, questions, notes along the way:

    • On a full ring of coal/wood, the WSM will run at smoking temps (225-245) for 14-15 hours. Seems quite efficient for about 12-13 pounds of coal/wood total.
    • First time, I clipped grill temp probe to lower grill, second time I just stuck it into the gasket. First time probe and lid temps were totally sync'd up, second time probe was 15-20 degrees less than lid.
    • For the first smoke, the shoulder, was expecting 7-8 hours to get to 205, ended up being 12 hours to get to 200
    • When you dump the ashes, make sure they are cooled off, or do not use a plastic bag (brain death is not always wonderful :D)
    • When you close up the WSM and start the smoke, make sure the dampers are OPEN (please refer back to brain death above...)
    • First time I was micro-managing the temp with the dampers, second time I adjusted them probably a total of twice, once initially, once mid-smoke
    Again, thanks to all and Mr Nspam. Smoke on Dooode.
     
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  18. Apr 17, 2017 at 9:20 AM
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    Nice write up. Welcome to the loony bin.
     
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  20. Apr 17, 2017 at 11:10 AM
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    Impossible, my understanding is you always beat it first. :rimshot:
     
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