2017 Tacoma needs new engine block!?

Well an attorney says that if they have the truck 30 days and say ok its ready that it does not stop the lemon law process so I can even pick up and drive the truck and still serve them notice to buy it back or swap it....that is fyi for anyone who should have to deal with this besides me...still no completition date from the dealer....and next thur is 30 days.....and hey if I get this one back in time and drive it for a year and no issues w that extended warranty I may keep it but if Im having to take it back every third wed. Of the month just because then Ill be dumping it....and for those who say entitled im entitled to a running new vehicle and the government says if after 30 days in the shop that they have to provide just that or money back so I am thankful for that but if you ever sit 30 days without a car it feels like a lifetime and heck I think it should be less time than that but cars are complex and it protects the dealer and manufacturers by giving them a reasonable time to repair it but at some point you have to throw in the towel and say yeap we had a bad one sorry...and not one single person from Toyota has really said sorry for your troubles dealer or otherwise which also shows you where their mind is....

 

I'm in business for profit selling new vehicles, I sell a product that you own for 2 weeks & put 381 miles on it, it requires a tear down and what ends up being an overhauled motor. We built our reputation and got / keep a foot hold in several markets because of our quality & workmanship.

You, a paying customer, purchased a NEW vehicle largely because of our outstanding reputation. You hadn't even made the first payment & it's been in the shop for nearly 2/3 of the time you've owned it.

Ya, I don't see any "entitled whiner" here regardless of what you and the rest of you thinking/saying this believe.

He bought new, it's still new but now has an overhaul motor.

 

Turns out there was video of OP's truck when it broke.

 

If I was the OP I would demand a new crate motor be put in and scratch rebuilding the old one, I would consider doing this as being less problematic than have rebuilt engine that could possibly exhibit poor performance due to lack of quality control during the rebuild, and would be faster and easier to unbolt remove and replace with a new one, plus I would be more comfortable knowing its brand new hopefully not having the previous issues.

 

That will still have the warranty, just like a brand new rig. And, whatever other extended warranty he can pull out of them for his trouble. That, I agree with totally. But thinking you're owed a complete new truck for this problem is asinine. Your truck is getting repaired. Yes, the dealership should replace the complete motor with new, and not rebuild. Makes more sense to R&R the motor, than to pull it, tear it down, repair the problem and put back in.

Would you be owed a new house, if your new construction home's A/C went out 2 weeks after you bought it?

 

Would you want a new A/C replaced or them rebuilding yours?

 

I've actually had to "rebuild" an A/C unit in a new house. What's your point? Middle of the summer, it was either try and fix it, or wait nearly 2 weeks to get a new unit. We repaired it, and it was fine. Didn't give us any more trouble.

The Lemon Laws are set specifically for this kind of problems. Here in Arkansas, you have 2 years or 24,000 miles from original purchase date to file. But the dealer has had to attempt to fix the same problem 3 times. If they've tried 3 times to repair, then they are required to buy it back. All of this "My new truck has a problem, but instead of giving you an opportunity to fix it, I want a new truck" business ain't gonna fly.

 

Bullshit comparison. That'd be like the A/C going out in the truck. The engine crapping out like this is the equivalent of finding out the plumbing in your new house is crap and full of cracks/leaks.

It's not like the OP had a bad battery and is asking for a new truck. Make a legit comparison if you're going to break out analogies.

 

Even in that case you would get new plumbing, not a new house.

 

The AC in the House is a bad comparison, a better one would be the Foundation.

 

But that is why there are lemon laws for cars. Durable structures are a different ball game.

Don't like the laws? Change them. But u til then, don't bitch about some seeking proper relief and recourse when legally available to him/her.

 

I never bitched, back in the very beginning in Post #7 l said the only thing the OP is entitled to is an engine but hoped Toyota takes care of him and maybe will qualify for LL. Was now simply saying the AC going out in a house was a bad comparo.

 

Lack of clarity on my part. Wasn't referring to.you, but to the other poster I replied to. Yes, his use of A/C was a poor comp.

 

All these analogies are silly. The OPs problem is more like: if you bought a "car" and the "motor" "blew" right away and the "motor" was replaced under "warranty".

Makes much more sense if you think of it in those terms.

 

So its not three attempts in this case as it is 30 days out of service so once it reaches that is lemon law even if they return the truck on or after they still have to replace or repurchase the truck it is my option on that.... so if you dont think I need one the state disagrees once it reaches 30 days out of service....& the dealer is using all new parts but there is a whole list but I was told so far it is the new short block cam shaft pistons etc so basically a whole new engine internally....while that is the right repair to do at minimum you hope they do it right the first time and a lot of variables that a dealer can mess up or damage in the process with even the best intentions....

 

Yup I agree. And it's like you bought a mechanical object that is subject to break, and has a warranty to fix any problems in a specific time, and they fix the problem but you think they should do more to fix there problem. How bow dat

 

A brief synopsis for our viewers if you're just joining us now.

OP has an engine on a brand new truck about ready to grenade. Dealer has ordered parts per Toyota field agent.

Bunch of cock play and assumptions.

OP still hasn't seen parts.

More cock play and assumptions.

Op still doesn't have parts.

More cock play and assumptions.

OP still doesn't have parts. Repair is possibly going to go passed the 30 threshold to begin Lemon Law proceedings in his state.

More cock play and assumptions.

 

Problem is he IS getting a rebuilt motor.

And, as I answered exactly the same question much earlier in this same thread, I believe the analogy is asinine. A motor is maybe the most important single component in a vehicle with out which his truck is useless, whereas an A/C unit in any home in my view, in a lot of cases, is a luxury without which the home is still functional.

My issue is with people calling OP entitled like his getting something for nothing which couldn't be further from the truth.

 

Looks to me like he's getting a new truck unless they get done with that engine awfully soon. He has options at this point that will likely include new truck or this one with about twice the warranty. Time will tell. Either way this situation sucks and I would hope we could all agree on that.

 

In the interest of fairness you might consider being a little more thorough than skimming before you accuse the OP of being an entitled whiner. Just a thought.